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 Post subject: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:59 pm 

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I am very happy seeing new games for A8 the last 3-4 years.

I thought it was best to enjoy them in my trusty 800XL so I created atr files with the new games. I tested the atr files in Altirra and saw that they worked OK.

I put the atrs in MyIDE CF but I had no luck loading most of them :(

Alien8, Saboteur etc do not load

I am on 3.5F. I do not understand the procedure to update to a more fresh bios if that is the case

Any help appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:57 am 
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Oh wow, that is long time ago for me.

You need atarimaxstudio to create your cartridge and decide your content.
The .PAC file is the MyBIOS you use to create the content.
Beside that, I normally add SIDE, ASSEMBELER, Altirra BASIC 1.52 and BASIC-C.
Then save this as an ATR for MyIDE+1MB

With this ATR you can re-flash the cartridge, by simply booting it (SIO2PC).
If you want me to create something for you, no problem.
Just let me now (p.m. me the files) and I get on it.

Grtz,
Sijmen.


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:37 am 

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Thank you for the reply (and your excellent products)

Do you think that a newer bios will increase the compatibilty?

I am eager to play the recent A8 conversions of Saboteur, Gunfright and other Spectrum beloved games in my dear 800XL

Maybe some compatibility tips or hints...

Thanx


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:17 am 
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Can you zip and upload them?
I will have a look if they run.

For sure, 3.5F you are running can be improved by upgrading to 4.8.05
The manual tells you how to upgrade too.
I can't really recall when I released 3.5f, been working with MyIDE-][ for many years now.
It's the stand-alone version before atarimax released the studio-software, right?

SIDE makes it possible to load directly from a FAT32-partition.

Later,
Sijmen.


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:04 pm 

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Thank you!

I have assembled some recent releases in an atr file (attached). Works just fine in Altirra, not in my 800XL + MyIDE (I get black screen and cracking sounds like a stuck keyboard press) for the most of them.

Could you try loading Saboteur, manicminer, fairlight etc and tell me if it worked for you?

Thanx!


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:49 am 
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Hi,

Saboteur loads directly from FAT, use SIDE without the MyBIOS.
Manicminer runs from MyBIOS,
fairlight is not on this disk.

I have made a compilation for you, it's 90k so 38k free to use.
Just let me know if you have requests.

The MyBIOS is recompiled, I could have removed some bugs in the last 6 years.....
;-)

Manuals and tools found on the original thread.
viewtopic.php?p=7010#p7010

Grtz,
Sijmen.

P.S.
New on MyBIOS 4.x.xx?
Update your LBA partition-sector!
Enter the MyIDE-MENU and EXIT/SAVE the first time.
And you are ready to go.


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:27 am 

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Oh! I never know that in the newer bios version I can run xex in FAT!

Once I buy a sio2PC-USB, I will update my BIOS and try it

Thank you!


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:40 am 
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There is a easy way, no need for SIO2PC if you have no.....

Put the flasher_ATR into a image slot.
Load MyBIOS, press START (go to Images).
Select this image and boot.

Cartridge will be flashed.
:-)


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:03 pm 

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AWESOME!!

Through the SIDE...everything I throw, works like a charm!

It was like getting a new cart!!


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:52 am 
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Thanks for the feedback :-)
The last MyBIOS is indeed much better then the early 3.5F

SIDE is a great loader for use on the older MyIDE.

Good to hear you are happy.

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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:56 am 

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Thanx for all Sijmen!

I have a question though which is not of any real importance but it may come handy to other users of this excellent product.

When I flashed the cart with the new bios, I setup the first partition from MyIde Menu and then went to the Rescue Loader.

I pressed [O] and configured the partition.
Then, when I selected [I] to format, after the question to proceed which I selected Y, I got an Error -- 160
I took the cart off the XL and put it back to the PC and I saw an approx 150ΜΒ capacity (out of the 1GB) available
I pasted my folders with the .xex files and it played smoothly in my 800XL

Why did I get the Error 160?
Why it did let me to copy things and worked like a charm? (hopefully hahahaha)
How do I take advantage of the rest of the card (although I do not really need it since 150ΜΒ are more than enough for the A8 games)

Have a nice weekend!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Cannot get new games load [Atari 800XL + external MyIDE]
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:35 am 
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I have no idea, 160 = drive-number wrong.....
Also when you use MyBIOS 4.8.x on a 1Gb card, about 400 Mb should be reserved for fat32 and the rest for MyIDE.
So why 150mb, I have no idea.
Did you setup FAT with APT?
You don't need APT, that is a special partition for SpartaDosX.
Using FAT only with MyIDE, this will double the fat32-area.

Fat32 is a separate partition so MyIDE does not look there.
Same goes for the PC, it uses the fat32-area and ignores the MyIDE-partition.
The drive-manager does all the MyIDE-stuff in the MyIDE-partition on the PC.

Perhaps I have some time next weekend to dig into this.
I have nothing to test MyBIOS 4.8.x on at the moment, working on Antonia/MyIDE-][ at the moment....

To update the MyIDE from 3.5 to 4.8, you only need to go to the MyIDE-MENU.
Change nothing and just do exit, save: "YES".
But if you have re-partitioned your CF-card, you can ignore this.

Later,
Sijmen.


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