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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:40 am 

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Also i forget to respond at your question : "After you used save&exit in fdisk, you do not get the message "HD-error!" ?"

Yes, also if don't power off and re-enter in FDISK menu immediatly.

"with shift+control+D you can bypass ANY device and enter FDISK to init it."

No it's only possible with the last device i used as i described.

See you ..


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:09 pm 

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Hi again,

Ok i check i've no psu for replacement test.
I checked the psu on load with the ATARI at several places on PCB => 5.16 Volts with no variation at all with multimeter.

Hope it helps,

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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:05 am 
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The last thing we can do is to connect the accessable drive to your pc and use a sector editor to manaually
setup a myide-partition table. Then use the myidetool to transfer mydos5.43 to d1 and see what happens
later on the atari. If it works to save data on the pc and later not on the atari, there is a issue with the
interface. Did you contact steve already? back later, have to digup some info how to setup.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:34 am 
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With a sector editor edit the WD CAVIAR 136 BA.
Access absolut sector $00000
erase the sector and enter the first 3x16 bytes manually.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:46 am 
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yes, not easy.....

With a sector editor edit the WD CAVIAR 136 BA.
Access absolut sector $00000
erase the sector and enter the first 3x16 bytes manually.
FE 00 03 00 0F 00 3F 00 02 00 03 00 01 00 02 00
01 00 01 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
02 00 03 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
save this myide setup (ide-size, d1 and d2, both sd, image mode enabled)

Then open a command-box and use the find device line.
myidetool --list
Note the drivenumber of your WD CAVIAR.
Then copy the mydos.atr to partition 1 like this:
myidetool \\.\PhysicalDrive2 -p 1 -w d:\atr\mydos.atr
were you replace 2 in your drive and d:\atr\mydos.atr in your filename-location.
(w=write p=partition 1=d1)
BE SURE TO HAVE THE CORRECT \\.\PhysicalDrive !!!!! YOU CAN OVERWRITE YOUR OWN HARDDRIVE IF FALSE.
done on the pc.

now boot this on your atari.
in theory you now boot from d1 that contains mydos.
if yes, the reading is ok.
try and format drive 2 (that is also present) and write dos to it.
if no, there is a write issue on your interface, contact steve.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:27 am 

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Hi Sijmen,

Yes i already sent two emails to Steven and i didn't receive yet any message.

He's very busy man, so wait ....

I'll try to do what you gave me as information but the the moment my pc XP has crash and i get back and save all the datas from my HD .. first job !

Ha !

Why everything is not made as an ATARI XL ?

Something else i'm very please to have see you on you tube ...

Awesome collection hou have !! it must be the paradise on earth , no ?

Thanks and Regards,


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:30 am 

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Hi Sijmen!

Here i'am ..so i made what you asked me :

sector $00000
FE 00 03 00 0F 00 3F 00 02 00 03 00 01 00 02 00
01 00 01 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
02 00 03 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
***all the rest full off "00"***

Init mode = Auto => A fix yellow frame border appears with "wait !"

Nothing happen..

In manual mode :

saved this myide setup (HD 16383 cyl, 63 sec/trk,16heads) :

d1 :720 sd and d2 : 720 sd ( or 2nd try with 65535 DD), both sd (or s and d), image mode enabled =1

With or without power ON /OFF => "Ready" Prompt , "BYE" => "HD ERROR" !

Whaterver i tried :

myidetool \\.\PhysicalDrive1 -p 1 -w a:\atr\mydos.atr ( image on floppy disk)

Write done with no error and i checked with "dos" or "mydos" commande under basic .. Nothing !

Checked again Fdisk status : "HD-ERROR !"

Do have any other ideas ?

I'll send again an email to Steve.

Thanks,


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:04 pm 
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Hmm, I wasn't clear I see.

I want to know if the problem is read or write related.
So in this first step I want to write on the PC then read on the Atari.

So please do not use FDISK. Instead of FDISK you do the manual setting of sector $0000 using your PC.
-You have to be 100% sure the drive has 16 heads/63 sectors (cylinders does not matter)-
Then copy mydos with the PC with myidetool to D1:
All this bypasses writes on the atari.
So done this on the PC, you have setup 2 partitions D1: and D2:
D1: is written with MyDOS, D2 is untouched.

Now go with this HD to your Atari and try to boot it.
When it does not boot (lock up or what ever) go into FDISK.
Do not setup, just report to me what the display reads.
FDISK reads sector $0000 and I want to know if that is correctly read.
Make a picture of the screen would be nice, thanks.

Back Sunday.
I also have a busy life :-)

Yeah, youtube was fun. Don't know what idiot made the subtitles, but you have an impression
of me and my house. More pictures are on my homepage...... www.mr-atari.com

Later,
Sijmen.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:30 am 
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Some last remarks, drive must be set as master.
You have a double CF-adapter? connect the CF to the master slot
Check jumpers if set correctly (5 volt. not 3.3)


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:56 am 

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hi Sijmen !

I've done what you was waiting .. No read at all from the atari !

I'll send you a email to your web site and Steve also, with pictures and comments.

Regards,


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:19 am 
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continuing on private email.
not a clue, hardware failure or incorrectly connected?


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:25 pm 
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I disassembled a SECAM 800XL and installed a internal MyIDE + Flash without any issues. The system boots normally once the correct connections for SECAM computers are made and I can read and write to a Transcend 512MB flash module with no problems.

I am attaching photos of the required connection points for SECAM.

Red wire - Normal connection to 74x138 pin 14.
White wire - Freddie pin 38 (Signal R/W)
Black wire - Freddie pin 5 (Signal o2)

If this fails you can also try connecting the white wire to Freddit 34, which is a latched 'late' version of R/W. In my tests both signals worked properly, but if the r/w and signal o2 timing on your computer is shifted slightly, this may help.

If you have all the connections correct and it still does not work you should return the module to me for a new one. I will send you the one I have installed in my SECAM 800XL now so you can be sure there are no module problems.

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:52 am 

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Hi Steve and Sijmen,

I made my test following the last informations from Sijmen .. no way !

So i made the new wiring as the pictures following up ... Halleluia !!!


I WORKS !!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. so Happy !!!!!

i made a test only with my CF 128 Mb card and i can make and save partition as i want ..but ?

I don't know if it still any problem ?

I don't succeed to read ( Start key + "1 " select +"b" prompt selection + fire") MYDOS.atr file writed on my partition 1 CF.

why ?

Also does someone have the ATR2myide V3 "the newest version" because the last V3 (i have ) and the version 0.1 from the forum give the same error ( wrong running on xp) when trying to use it to CF ?

Thanks guys ... again and again !

I'm waiting your informations..

SO Happy !!!

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 Post subject: Re: Internal MYIDE + IDE Flash module compatibility
PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:47 am 
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When is works (and now it does), forget the manual setup.
This was for trouble-shooting only.
Powerup with shift+control+D, and run Fdisk, init -auto detect. Be sure the settings are correct.
If the auto detect is wrong, use a other CF card.
You can copy mydos to partition 1 on your PC.
Then go back to your atari.
Images (use start at powerup) needs to be setup in fdisk first.
Then you can copy any amount of atr's using the -i switch (images) instead of -p (partitions) on your PC.

success and grtz,
Sijmen.


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