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Article #257 (730 is last): Newsgroups: freenet.sci.comp.atari.mags From: aj434@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bruce D. Nelson) Subject: ST Report: 10-Apr-92 #815 Posted-By: xx004 (aa400 - John J. Lehett) Reply-To: aj434@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bruce D. Nelson) Date: Mon Apr 13 18:24:11 1992 *---== ST REPORT INTERNATIONAL ONLINE MAGAZINE ==---* """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "The Original 16/32bit Online Magazine" from STR Publishing """""""""""""" April 10, 1992 No.8.15 ========================================================================== STReport International Online Magazine Post Office Box 6672 Jacksonville, Florida 32205 ~ 6672 R.F. Mariano Publisher - Editor ----------------------------------------- Voice: 904-783-3319 10 AM - 4 PM EST Support BBS Network System * THE BOUNTY ST BBS * FNET 350 ~ Fido 112:35 ~ TNET 100:2/0 904-786-4176 USR/HST 16.8 DUAL STANDARD 1200 - 19.2bps V.32 - 42 bis 16.8 FAX: 904-783-3319 12 AM - 6 AM EST ----------------------------------------- FNET.. 18 ~ TNET 100:3/0: ///Turbo Board BBS Support...1-416-274-1225 FNET.. 75 ~ TNET 100:28/0 Bloom County BBS.............1-415-965-9347 FNET. 350 ~ TNET 100:2/0 The Bounty *
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Amstrad holds fourth pace with 7.8%, followed by Apple with 6.8% and Olivetti with 5.7%. Atari is next with 0.5%. After that, the market is highly fragmented with several companies holding the remaining 38% of market share. Germany, also with a 1.5 million unit sales market, Commodore leads with 15.0%. Second place goes to Atari with 13.0%, followed by IBM with 11.8%. The rest of the pack is as follow: Compaq - 5.0%, Amstrad - 3.3%, Olivetti - 2.4%, and Apple - 1.9%. Forty-seven percent of the market is held by others. France with a 1.2 million unit sales market is a different picture. Compaq and Atari lead with, respectively, 13.3% and 10.1% market share. The other five companies -- Apple - 8.5%, Amstrad - 7.9%, Compaq - 6.6%, Olivetti - 4.7% and Commodore - 3.8%. The "others" have 45.1% of the market. Italy, with 700,000 annual unit sales, finds Olivetti leading with 25.0% of the home market. Second place goes to IBM with 21.0%. 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Since we have a small group tonight, I'm going to let Deron make an initial statement. OK, Deron, do you have an opening statement tonight? GA (By the way, GA means Go Ahead). GA For the Amiga.. Thanks for coming tonight. HotLinks is the latest good news. It started shipping a few weeks ago, and has been greeted by most with open arms. With it came a minor update to 2.2 to fix some HotLinks related bugs and to support some "last minute" feature we added to the IFF DTXT text format. What is HotLinks? It's the live, automatic exchange of data. What this means is that if you edit your text in a text editor, the changes will update in your DTP program without loss of formatting applied in either program. Same goes true for any kind of data. Pictures, graphs, musical notes, video clips. HotLinks acts as a kind of data traffic cop, sending new copies of data to applications "subscribing" to the data "edition" even if the applications were not loaded when the changes occured. For more info call us! (1 800 829-8608) HotLinks is an open system, and we invite others to join us in supporting what could be the most important enhancement to the Amiga since Arexx. For more info and a developer kit call us. We will also be putting an archive of the developers kit together and placing on-line here for all to enjoy. Look for it soon. For the Atari ST.... No major announcements at this time. However, many people have commented that with the release of HotLinks for the Amiga that Soft-Logik has abandoned the ST market altogether. Let me assure you this is not the case. Just that we have preannounced products in the past and this generates alot of grief and ill will. I can tell you that minor and major updates to the ST will continue for as long as our users continue to support us. With even the international markets weakening, nothing is more important than the installed base to us and every other publisher on the ST (most of this is true for the Amiga as well) PageStream wise, I can't show my cards just yet, but you won't wait forever. I _can_ tell you that several import modules are on the way and you will be seeing them soon. The ones in beta stages so far are: Calumus text, Arabesque bitmaps, ThatsWrite text, STAD bitmaps, GEM3 (yea!) and another one I can't remember. These modules will "happen" within the month. Beyond that, I'm pleased to inform you that Nathan at ISD has forwarded to us copies of the latest CVG format, and we will roll one out as soon as possible. Some people have even asked where is HotLinks for the ST? First let me say that HotLinks actually started on the ST over 2 years ago, but we ran into several problems, most of them related to the lack of MultiTasking. However, HotLinks for the ST is not forgotten, just put on hold for a better time. On the other hand, PageLiner (a text processor) and BME(a bitmap editor), won't happen anytime soon on the ST. What that means is that for HotLinks to happen it is going to take support from other venders. HotLinks is an open system, and the invitation to look at it is open to the ST developers as well as the Amiga. This is were the users can help. If this technology is interesting to you, then push other developers of your favorite products to find out more about it, and if enough developers are actually interested in it, it's chances of life are that much better. Also, push Atari to support it, or even put it in the OS. No better way to get support than to put it on every machine. Well, let's get on with the Show! I will now unlock the room so everyone can talk freely. HOWEVER, please be sure to /RAI your hand so I can call on you...the real reason I am unlocking the room is because it is easier for me to run the conference that way. OK, here goes... ** Room is now in the talk mode. OK, please /RAI your hand if you have a question? OK, John, go ahead..! <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> Thank you for coming Deron we appreciate your time. Any plans for speed up of screen redraws especially concerning Type 1 fonts almost unuseable except for headlines. GA ** is here. Well, like I said not much I can say about future plans for PageStream except that it's on the wishlist :-) However, there is away around your problem. Use bitmap screen fonts. Only thing is finding them sometimes is difficult. You can create them with some utilities depending on the machine your on and how well you can deal with less than happy software. ga Followup John? ga <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> On the wishlist .. how long is the wishlist and is TABS, leaders on that wishlist for the ST users? GA Several people have asked for that :-) Thats an understatement. I can assure you they are. actually most ask for left/center/right /decimal with leaders. ga Thanks, John..! Ok, next up is Ron. Ron, what is your question? ga <[Ron] R.HARISCH1> With all the 24 bit graphics boards for the Amiga, is SL planning to support 24 bit graphics in PageStream? GA Yes, we plan on it. We even hope for it. But it's going to take some work on the board manufactures parts. Right now the most advanced boards (those that support the library created by DMI for the resolver) still do not provide any support for windowing and the like. We don't have the time to do their work. However, it may be changing soon. ga Do you have another ?? Ron? <[Ron] R.HARISCH1> I've heard that Art Expression will be much better than ProDraw. Can you highlight some of its features? GA Well, most of the important ones are the interface and ease of use. Also, the ability to bind text to a path and text in a shape. Blending, tracing, good set of drawing tools, loads Aegis Draw, Illustrator, DR2D. want more? GA <[Ron] R.HARISCH1> Yea, when will we see it? :) No release date set. But I can say the manual writer has been busy. But the program is still some time away. AS a registered user you can be sure of getting propaganda in the mail when it's closer :-) <[Ron] R.HARISCH1> Thanks Deron - Looking foreward to it. GA Thanks, Ron. Next up is Martha. Martha, go ahead. <[Martha] M.DYCUS> I make calendars with a lot of little columns. I have a problem making the text stay where I put it. For instance...I will tab a line over and save the DOC... when I return to it the text is NOT tabbed. What can I do? ga What happens to the text? Does it move? Do you put carriage returns at the end of the line? If you just let Pagestream word wrap, and then try and space or tab over, it will suckup that white space next time you load the doc. <[Martha] M.DYCUS> It moves from it's tabbed position back to the left side. Yes I use CR. I think I might have a suggestion for this one...may I? <[Martha] M.DYCUS> Please. Well, I would bet it has something to do with that. Try stretching out the column. ga Nevin OK, when I make charts or calendars, this is what I do. I make one vertical line, then duplicate it say 7 times, 1 inch horizontal. We now have 7 columns. Then I do the same thing making 4 rows (for 4 weeks in a month). Then I make a text object (just click on the page, no column) of say 24 point Triumvirate and type the letter "A". Then I duplicate this 7 times, 1" horizontal. They are now all in the center of the top row. Now I grab all 7 "A" and duplicate this 4 times 1 " down. Finally, just click (with the text cursor) on any A, backspace, and change it to the letter(s) that you need. It works great, and everything is perfectly centered! ga <[Martha] M.DYCUS> ok....thanks! ga Ok, glad I could help out! Next up is our friend Steve Markow. Thanks Nevin.. First, I got cut off before when you said something about abandoning the ST and I didn't hear the response, so if you don't mind a summary, second is there any plans for something like Art Expression or some companion program for the ST? ga What I said about the ST was that we are not leaving it behind, just that not every thing that happens on one machine will happen on the other. Second, I feel that with Outline, Arabesque, and other drawing programs (geesh, I can't remember what CodeHead is doing...) AvantVector and others its a well troden market. Also, both PageLiner/BME/ and Art Expresion are done by programmers who have 0 ST experience. That doesn't mean that another program under the same name won't happen, just not the exact one. But we do have some plans for the future in that direction, but nothing even more than a twinkle in daddies eyes and scratched on paper. ga What about an interim patch program to fix the bugs with the ST version until a new version is done? ga anything is possible :-) You'll have to read my whole opening statement where I talk about not able to show my hand when it comes to PageStream. Let's just say it's a real possibility for such a thing to happen. ga Thanks, Steve! Ok, thanks, Nevin make sure it's archived, I'll check it later. Thanks Deron, gotta run,. ga Next up is Mike. Go ahead, Mike. <[Mike Angier] M.ANGIER> Since, you can not comment further on bug fixes for ST/TT Pagestream, perhaps you would care to comment on support for extended video cards for the ST/TT (esp. Crazy Dots which supports up to 256 colors ... a new version will do 32K colors, particularly, getting away from Line-A towards "legal" VDI usage. GA Well, PageStream already support 256 colors. not so sure about 32K as the OS extensions to support more than 256 colors is not done as I am aware. PgS2.1 On the ST is 100% VDI! ga Anything else, Mike? <[Mike Angier] M.ANGIER> Well, I guess I had better bark up a certain German Tree then...GA OK, thanks Mike. Deron, one user left a question to me in e-mail, and here it is... "With more and more of my clients requesting that I make coupons (with the Recession and all) is there a chance that you will add 'real corners' on boxes drawn with dashed lines? The coupons would look a LOT better with real corners. Thanks for any info." ga Well, what he is really looking for is borders. That's one the infamous wishlist, but it's not very high. The best way to do what he wants is to actually draw the dashes inside a drawing program, or even Pagestream, then group it. The you can get the exact corners he needs, and can call it up and size it at will. That would be a simple solution that would work. Which is what counts when your trying to make a buck. I could even create something and upload it that did what he wants. I've got a few drawing programs laying around. :-) ga Deron, that is a good idea..! Perhaps I will create some boxes for him and upload them to the library here. With the duplicate feature, it should be easy to do. OK, next up is John. John? <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> Not a question but Steve echoed my thoughts my opinion I think bug fixes to the current version far outweigh ANY new import modules that will be here within a month. Maybe another wishlist. Lotta "wishing" by ST users. GA Well, some things may happen sooner than you think. One thing you have to remember is that when a new version of an existing program is pending, sales drop to the zero mark fast. However, things like import modules don't stop anyone from buying the existing products because its not nearly as exciting. Just to shed some light on things, we have all been very busy with HotLinks and the Amiga2.2 release, but with it now out the door, I find myself with a little spare time (I only wish, but you get the picture) ga <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> ok Deron .. so don't say anything and we'll be patient puppies and wait for the announcements. love the product ... for what it's worth... OK, next up is B.O.B., from Twin Peaks BOB? Thanks...wondering about the 'ole rumor about text along a path from within the program...any future in this? BTW, LOVE 2.1 (could do without the bugs, though) GA Well, I can tell you that text along a path in PageStream won't happen anytime soon. It's not on our "wishlist" BTW, we keep two wishlists, the likely and the unlikely. This is one the unlikely. It belongs in drawing programs, and makes for very tough text editing in a program like PageStream. BTW, several programs on the ST already support this. (I am assuming you are on the ST) ga One more kwickie...how about a Voters form in the next newsletter. Something like "What 5 new features or old bugs do you want looked at" GA Well, actually user input molds alot of what we do these days. You see one doesn't have to ask for opinions from the loud ones. They tell you whether you want to know it or not :-) Seriously, I get several letters a week from users asking for features. ga Just one more...only prob with using another prog for text along a path... is that NO other progs use PGS proprietary fonts or Compugraphic fonts. ;*( Thats why we support three formats now. Also, there is a converter program that converts between PGS and Type1s. Don Turnock I believe is the man behind it. ga Bob, Didot Pro can use Adobe Type 1 fonts, and it is GREAT at text along a path. Of course, it lists for $999. Thanks...ga Thanks, next up is John Duckworth. John, go ahead..! <[John] J.DUCKWORTH2> I recently purchased a used version of 1.8 from another user...what is the procedure for re-registering the program in my name ? And is it possible to upgrade to the newest version? ga Good question. We are actually putting it in our new manuals in the future. We get about 1 call a week for this. The quickest thing is to have the user contact us with his name and address, and the new name and address. If you can't get ahold of the user, then call our sales line and give them the reg number. They can track him down and verify it. If he is unreachable they will keep his old record and mark it inactive and add you in. Not very difficult. Just call 1-800-829-8608. Also, one thing every one should be aware of is that if you upgrade to 2.1 that does not entitle you to sell your 1.8. Unless you bought 2.1 brand new. The upgrade fee we charge is to upgrade the program, not give a new one. This makes some transfers tough because people will upgrade to 2.1 and then sell 1.8. What they don't realize is that there is only 1 registeration number, and that transfers everything. Also, then the 1.8 owner can't upgrade to 2.1 because we can only allow 1 upgrade. Well, enough company policy for one sitting. ga <[John] J.DUCKWORTH2> The person I bought it from did not upgrade so it should be no problem then. Thanks Thanks..! Next up is R.BROWN. Go ahead. We are using PgS on TT's and would like to know if there might be a possibility of using very large color TIFFs (8+ megabytes) where the picture file is accessed not unlike that is, accessed as file, but not within the TT memory. What about virtual memory support or file linkage. ga I think I understand your question. Can I answer? ga Other than saying it's on the wishlist (likely list), there is a solution (albeit a hack) when printing to postscript. Are you? ga yes, We are printing to 3 in-house imagesetters, and scip spin based scanner ok, well PageStream2.1 supports imbedded EPS comments now. What you can do is have the tiffs seperated into 4 seperate EPS files, then import an FPO. This was created to work with our local imagesetters spin system they use with Quark, so you should be in business it sounds like :-) Need more info? ga Please provide as much info as possible. GA Well, the spin system (is it linked to a hell or sitex scanner?) will output 4 eps on to a Mac system, one for cyan, mangeta, yellow, black. It will also create a very small eps with a tiff header that you use for position only, and rough draft printing. Please bear in mine that to use Quark is to defeat the purpose of having TT's and Pgs. It is a Hell spin based scanner. ga You don't have to use quark, I'm just saying that the feature was put into the SPIN system to support Quark. How dare you imply that :-) Anyway, Pagestream will send the small FPO eps when printing "no seperations" but when you print 4-color seps, it places special comments into the postscript file that tells a downloader to merge in the external files. You don't even have to have the huge scans anyhere near PageStream. Do you have a mac system for downloading, or do you connect the ST direct. And how does the SPIN system offload the files in your setup? ga Sorry no offense, puns, etc. intended. We support PgS to the death around here. It's connected to a Mac linked to a PC network. The TT picks the files up off the PC network. ga Next up is Martha. Martha?? OK, just call the spin people up and ask them how to create the EPS. ga <[Martha] M.DYCUS> Is it possible to create something in OUTLINE ART and import it into Pagestream?...this may be what B.O.B. asked..ga. Yes, two ways. 1, you can convert it into an EPS file and place it inside for printing to a postscript printer or a clone like UltraScript or Composcript. The other way is to convert it into another format with programs like Arabesuq or Avant Vector. Third way ok, I lied about the 2) is to wait for a CVG import module. ga <[Martha] M.DYCUS> Thanks!! ga OK, folks...I have to pack so I can fly to Toronto tomorrow at 7am. However, feel free to stay here and chat among yourselves. Deron, THANKS for coming tonight. We had a small crowd, but lots of excellent questions. I will have to beat up Fred to get more Amiga folks here..! <[Martha] M.DYCUS> Nevin!!...Look at everything TWICE!! Once for me.. *grin* Any closing comments Deron (and remember, just because I'm leaving does not mean you have to leave too! )?? ga <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> gee, what does that tell you, the loyal ST users. (sigh) When you get back, let's plan one about a month in advance :-) and pick a good night I guess. I would have wanted more ST users even. It makes for a more interesting night. Deron, a quickie: how soon before Appletalk for the TT and Mega STe's are released? What is holding this up? Have fun in toronto, don't do anything I've already done :-) Say hi to Mark and Dan, and keep and eye on them. I'll stick around here for awhile. bye OK, sorry about the short lead time. But really, I think we covered a lot of ground. Folks, that is it for me...and please hang around if you feel like it. Fred will upload a transcript over the weekend. Goodnight, all. <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> thanks Nevin .. safe trip <[Martha] M.DYCUS> Night, Nevin ** has left. R.Brown. Are you intersted in it? We have put the project on the back burner do to a resounding lack of interest. Yes! Is there any way to get a Beta prototype, WE'LL PAY for it! Well, how about you call tommorrow and we can work something out. That'll be Mike Choo calling... We have some stuff that you can try, and if it works we can sell it you :-) I thought Mike had it already? Negative Well, I thought it was now up to 2 people that were interested in it. Now you tell me you work with (or for) the first person interstest in it :-( We'd like to run Appletalk on top of Ethernet <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> Dee Dee is interested in it...big time <[Martha] M.DYCUS> Night... and THANKS, Deron for a great program! bye martha Well, you both can call me :-) Deron, we at Digital Imaging Systems feel we can help with the marketing of Appletalk after sorting out the bugs. ga I thought Mike was PO'd at us because we didn't make him happy? Anyway, it's not the marketing part. It's the fact that the installed base of TT's and Mega STes can be counted on your hands (almost) ga Richard speaking -- Michael tends to be a baby about some things but he does have more systems than that himself. ga I realize that (about the # of systems) Just that even one large user would have a hard time offsetting the 1 manyear+ spent on the system already. We started the project early on hoping Atari would move some units of the TT and STe. sigh. Such is life when you hook your sleigh up to a falling star and not a shooting comet. Right now we have 3 offices and would seriously attempt to increase the interest and possible sale of multiple units. What number should I call? - Mike ga 1-800-829-8608. by the way.... I can't see if anyone has a raised hand! So we will have have to wing it! well, if someone has a question, just blast away. ga there is only 6 of us. It can't get too bad :-) Thanks, one other question (Richard) how about more ink control in the DeskJet driver? We get overspray. Do you mean DeskJet 500 color? ga Yes. And who to speak to at that number? you can ask for me richard. just make sure you give the secretary the full details of who you are our she won't even patch you through :-) I'm well sheilded :-) ga <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> Deron .. is the "disappearing" fonts from the font selector box on the bug fix wish list? John, the disappearing fonts would be on the "done been fixed" list if we kept such things and talked about unreleased products. ga <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> "kept such things" ?? don't understand I said that the disappearing font bug would be on the "fixed bugs list" if we kept such a list and if we talked about products we don't talk about before they are released. vous compreane? In particular, the DeskJet 500C in BLACK cartridge mode tends to eat up cartirdges at a superhuman rate. Very wet pages. Mike Choo says thanks and will call and make himself known. Mike Choo also wants to sell you an imagesetter. Any thoughts? Well, unless he also sells me some more floor space to park one, it will have to wait till we move later this year. Otherwise, what we need is true postscript considering the kinds of testing we have to do. We also need something that will do good color work. If he can supply, I can be interested. The postscript must be VERY good if its not Adobe. ga It is very small, smaller than LC890... It is true PostScript. By Birmy and prints files that will not print on a RIP 40 from Linotype. john, did you understand? <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> well .. sorta I guess .. you don't keep a "well we fixed that bug" what's next" list? it just gets frustrating well, maybe I should come to miami and see it :-) Can you send me some specs? Or just tell me now? Send sample PostScript color files to Transcaribe on Syquest and I'll send samples back post haste... We can talk it over on the phone... ok fine. Mind if I put timing code in it? ga It would just be easier for me to give you a number where you can reach me now and I can better discuss what's for grabs. John, I understand. It's hard to work around. Richard, got a number? I'm at home but I have a open phone line. What can Postscript Level 2 add to PgS??? I see NEC has new model 95 Laser printer with level 2 Postscript and RET technology like the HP-III's for $1749 list! Fred, level 2 will add better memory cleanup, better pattern fills, and more compatability problems :-) <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> who will be at the ACE show Deron? John, Mark from tech suppo, and Dan from R&D will be there. Dan is giving two classes <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> met Mark in Orlando last year <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> Fred .. Tom Yurick has posted some messages concerning Level 2 with PGS in the RT, but I believe that printer can switch back to level 1 easily what was that John about Tom Yurick? <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> Tom Yurick has an HPIIIp (I believe) and sent his PS cartridge back to Hewlett Packard for an exchange to Level 2. Will the current PS drivers work with and use some of those better fills and features etc?? By the way, this is Mike C. Rich & fred, well we are adobe developers, and we will support it, but we don't now. The memory management and speed you get for free and the rest you can get by just hacking the postscript.prolog file (on the Amiga that is) on the ST, you gotta wait a little while. <[john] J.E.DONOHUE> gonna run ... thanks for your time Deron bye john Deron, Mike here, is there any chance we will see the new postscript driver pretty soon with the prolog file? gee, what is it with Florida people? 4 of them out of total! anything to add d.wilson? you've been quiet. Other than my previous question, I'm happy w/ PgS (Amiga) The only thing I don't like is the level of incompetence at Mobile, AL print shops. yea, well you would be suprised at the number of places in the country who think that if they can't load it up into Quark or Pagemaker, they can't print it on their imagesetters. You would think they would learn a little more about their hefty investment. These people can't even accept that MS-DOS disks can work in some Macs. Deron are there any more plans to add more styles that are recognized by the program without using the fontequiv file - SHADOW Well, we routinely talk to print shops...anyway, if you want we can train your locals in the fine art of making money off of you. We call shops like that and try and explain to them how to download stuff like ours all the time. Probably the unknowing print shop staff :) maybe that would be a good article for the next DTP World? Well, as luck would have it,I wrote 2 articles for the next DTP world, and one of them is taking PageStream to the Lino :-) Good luck. The closest thing Mobile has to an Amiga dealer who sells Adventure Const. set for $60.00. rich/mike, what was that about fontequiv? In familys, if there is a style call shadow wplus others, the shadow style must be added through font equiv. Well, most likely some of the default fonts it knows about can be extended. By the way, there are problems with the bleed command when using eps files I mean styles, not fonts. I'm pretty sure it knows about Shadows? Hmmm, maybe not. ga Deron, lets put is this way, I have a large fontequiv file with a number of added styles, Shadow. DemiBold and a few others. Well, send me the list and I will try and build the reoccuring ones in. Then you won't have to specify it for every font. ga How do you rate your appletalk against the parallel port on the TT. Speed wise. Which is faster. Well, appletalk kills it in speed :-) Our only problem is that we get an occasional lostpacket, which it recovers from, but it tacks on an extra 10 seconds. Doesn't happen every time you print, just sometimes. Anyway, it screems. I can give you an example time tommorow. Whats our cost for the Software. Free unless it works :-) Depends on whether you just want to bundle it without docs etc, or if you need manuals etc. Ok thanks for time will speak to you tomorrow. Mike C. ok, bye. I'm sure you've been asked this already, but I came in late. Any idea on the release date of Art Expression? No release date set. Sorry. I talked alittle about it, and you might be able to gleen some more info from the transcript. Are you doing that fred? yes! I'm just tired of drawing cartoons in DPaint. Jaggies (shudder) I understand, :-) It will be worth the wait! I just hope the drool doesn't short out my computer... :) I doubt it, but we did have a user complain to us that his wife wanted a divorce after PgS2.2 came out because he never left the computer for several days straight :_) Deron, I just logged on here so I probably missed it, but I thought I saw something about a new version of Pagestream for the Amiga, is this true? Well, we just released a version called 2.2 HL. The patch file do go from 2.2 to 2.2 HL is online. Is there one for the ST/TT coming anytime soon? Check the transcript later! It's been long since covered. We are kinda in free form, gabbing now :-) ok folks...its been a long night! ;-) most everyone is gone. Just the 4 of us left. One last question... Yea, same here. Nice talking with you. Yes? Has SL had a chance to look at Migraph's OCR software for their scanners? Just briefly at the AmiExpo in long beach. Was running on a TT no less. What about it? ga Just wondering how well it worked. Can't tell much from press releases. Yea, well it's still beta so anything can happen. Deron, do you know of a program for the ST/TT that can create AFM files from PFB files? not sure. not that I am aware of. D.Wilson, I had a close hand look at it, and it is very nice! ok...that's a wrap! thanks for coming everyone....check out the library this weekend for the transcript! ok, thanks fred for hanging in till the bitter end :-) bye everyone. bye bye, and thanks for PgS. bye folks! ** has left. THE END !!! """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" IMPORTANT NOTICE! ================= As a reader of STReport International Online Magazine, you are entitled to take advantage of a special DELPHI membership offer. For only $29.95 ($20 off the standard membership price!), you will receive a lifetime subscrip- tion to DELPHI, a copy of the 500-page DELPHI: THE OFFICIAL GUIDE and over $14 worth of free time. 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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > THE FLIP SIDE STR Feature "... a different viewpoint..." ========================= A LITTLE OF THIS, A LITTLE OF THAT ================================== by Michael Lee ---------------- From Rod Coleman (Sudden View) - From the Jerry Pournelle Roundtable... Thank you very much. As Jerry knows, its a very old argument. Look up the April 1981 edition of, I believe, EDN or maybe Electronic Design. One of them did a special benchmark issue on three new chips, the Intel 8086, Zilog Z-8000 and the Motorola 68000. Motorola was hands down winner in performance, architecture, ease of programming - everything. Zilog had some nice points but still had limited addressing. As for Intel, the question was rasied as to whether they would even stay in the microprecessor business. It was suggested that they stick to making RAM memory. I wonder what that editor's doing for a living now? Because of its 370 background, there was a rumor that IBM wanted to use the 68000 for its new PC product, but Motorola would not guarantee volume production by August, so the Intel 8088 was selected. For that reason I started a computer company to manufacture 68000-based computers; but that's another even longer story. Since August of 1981, millions of programmers have written an untold number of lines of code for PC compatibles. And even more millions of user have learned to deal with the memory constraints of the Intel processors running under MS-DOS. All of this code it will have to be rewritten, and users will have to learn new software WHEN we go to a true 32-bit architecture (notice I didn't say IF we go to a true 32-bit architecture). This work has already started as developers move their programs from the PC to Mac, Next or one of the RISC machines. Considering all of the rewriting of code, and the relearning by one humdred million users that will occur in the next ten years, I believe that the selection of the Intel processor by an IBM employee in 1981 may be the biggest mistake ever made by any single person in the history of mankind. Just add up the man-hours of effort: you'll see what I mean. There's lots more, but I hear sirens. And if I get a topic cop who likes Intel, I'm in real trouble. Anyway, thanks for the comment. ---------------- From Craig Atkins - Cat. 11, Topic 2, Msg. 13 - from the ST Roundtable on Genie... Hello, My name is Craig S. Atkins. I am the editor of our user group newsletter, The Lilly Pad. We are the Front Range Atari User Group, (FRAUG) located in Fort Collins, CO. Jerry Belfor (303)223-2604 is our current President. Our mailing address is: FRAUG 3012 Rockborough Court Fort Collins, CO 80525 I believe we have approximately 40 members and adding 1-2 monthly. We have only been around for 3 years. ---------------- A list of games that will run on the TT - Cat. 9, Topic 3 - from the ST Roundtable on Genie... From Frank Goron - Msg. 46... I'd love to see an up-to date list of games that run on the TT. I'll start things off with my own list and I hope others will contribute their own lists. Anything by Sierra (even if they DID abandon the Atari platform). FTL - OIDS, DungeonMaster, Chaos Strikes Back (did they do anything else?) Night Hunter (Ubi Soft) Maniac Mansion (LucasFilms) Future Wars (Interplay/Delphine) Arkanoid II - Revenge of Doh (Taito) Trivial Pursuit - (Domark) really awful game! MicroLeague Baseball II JET - (SubLogic) Orbiter - Spectrum HoloByte From N. Steel - Msg. 47, 52 & 53... Deuteros (using an auto folder loaded with 24bit & 50Hz boot) Silent Service II (Microprose) M1 Tank Platoon (Microprose) Railroad Tycoon (Microprose) - By the way, Railroad Tycoon works straight from the box, 'Make1Meg' is not required, odd! Flight Of The Intruder (Spectrum Holobyte) UMSII (Microprose/Intergalactic Development) Their Finest Hour (Lucasfilm) Heimdall (Sort of works, problems with screen redraws) Empire (Interstell) Proflight (Hisoft) Red Storm Rising (Microprose) Monkey Island (Lucasfilm) UMS 1 (Rainbird/Intergalactic Development) Balance Of Power 1990 Edition (Mindscape) Breach 2 (Omnitrend) Almost all of the games I've mentioned are hard drive installable, the exceptions being Deuteros and Heimdall. P.S. Blue Max also works without Make1Meg. The trouble is the game is really lousy. From Joe Meehan - Msg. 48... TETPNE (Tetris (Spectrum Holobyte) Battle Chess (Interplay) The Sorcerer of Claymorgue Castle (Key Punch) Silent Service (Sub Logic) Planetarium (Is this a game?) (Atari) The above are working for me, They may not run in all res, games seldom do that anyway . Slither (PD) (runs far too fast to play) (:-( Does anyone know how to fix this? From Jonathan Roy - Msg. 50... Populous II runs, but isn't playable in any way. It just plain suck at TT speed. (You can win nearly ANY level in under 10 seconds...) From Scott Sanders (SDS) - Msg. 51... Be sure and add Loom (Lucasfilm) to that list. ---------------- Some questions and comments about Atari's history - Cat. 18, Topic 8 - From the ST Roundtable on Genie... From Steve Johnson - Msg. 20... I guess this is the best place to ask a few questions about the history of Atari, so here it goes... Would it be fair to say that Atari development became 'stale' during the early 80's (under Warner Communications) because they didn't have the resources, or, if not, what REALLY happened? Also, when did Warner buy Atari? How did the two Atari companies (Atari Corp. and Atari Games Corp.) come out of Atari, Inc.? I know Atari, Inc. was owned by Warner, but were each of the new Atari companies purchased seperately from them or was Atari bought from Warner as a whole and then split up or what? I need to know the details. Also, when was Atari sold? Would it be fair to say that Atari Corp. focused mainly on their computer line (i.e. the ST) for the first few years since it was purchased from Warner (eventhough they DID 'revamp' the former 8-bit computers and videogame consoles)? From Dorothy Brumleve - Msg. 21... I don't think it's fair to say that Atari development became "stale" under Warner...A friend of mine worked for them at that time and was supervising some very exciting projects which never saw production. From John Townsend (Atari) - Msgs. 22 & 24... Atari, Inc.'s management got "comfortable" with its position in the market and thought that years of endless growth would continue for a long time to come. They spend lots of money on everything (lots of executive perks, etc.) and when the video game market took a nosedive, they never recovered. As for why there are two Atari companies, that was a product of the Sale. Atari Corp. consisted of the consumer products divisions (Home Video Games and Home Computers) and Atari Games Corp. consisted of the Arcade Video Game division. As for development at Atari, Inc... let's just say that Atari was VERY organized in R&D and had some interesting things under development ;-) From what I have read.. Warner didn't really care what Atari did as long as their profits showed up on the Balance Sheets at the end of every quarter. In its peak years, Atari was making so much money that it was able to carry other divisions of Warner that weren't doing as well.. As for the 1450XLD, it was finished. (We have one collecting dust in the Lab) But never made it to market. ---------------- About the new Flash II - From John Trautschold (Missionware Software) - Cat. 8, Topic 2 - from the ST Roundtable on Genie... Message 144... Yes, Flash II has the same "look and feel" of Flash I. (Boy, I'm starting to get sick of that expression...sigh...) Differences: Terminal mode...status line is at the top, but it's still a full screen's width display (meaning a full 80 characters). Editor/Capture Buffer...This is the GEM side of things, and has the usual pulldown menus, etc. The menus are rather drastically rearranged however due to the new features included. Also, there are now separate "Save..." menu choices, instead of the one "Save" choice that then displayed a dialog requesting the type of save you wanted to do. Same for the "Load" functions. A right-button click does the switching between modes. There really isn't a lot of color in the basic program...there are a few colorized menu choices and dialogs. However, if you call into a color board (using, say, ANSI emulation) you'll get the full color effects provided by that board (and assuming the resolution you are operating in, ST Medium or TT Medium, supports those colors.) Also, any GIF pictures you download either online or in review mode, will display in full color. From Msg. 177... Hi everyone! We're back from Toronto (and what a trip THAT was! :-). Anyway, FLASH II is now ready to ship. We previously posted information about the new program here in the topic, and now it's time to post information on how to order Flash II! That's the best part, right? Here's the deal. We'll accept orders for Flash II using any of the following methods: 1) For outright purchases (meaning you aren't going to upgrade from an older version), the price is $49.95 US plus $4 shipping and handling. You can order via: a) Telephone: 708-359-9565. If we don't answer, just leave the following information on the machine and we'll process your order: VISA or MasterCard number, Expiration Date, Name, Address, City, State, ZipCode, and phone number. Your charge card will be billed on the day we ship (which may not be on the day the order is received, but it *will* be within a day or two! :-). If you want us to call you back to confirm the order before it is place, please note that on your message. b) Mail: Your can, of course, mail order your copy of Flash II. We'll accept VISA or MasterCard, with the information included as noted above, or you can send a check or money order (in US funds please) in with your order. Please do NOT send cash. Although I don't mind receiving cash in the mail, it's really not a safe thing to do. c) Email: Email orders to J.TRAUTSCHOL will be accepted as if it were a telephone order. Naturally, you must use a charge card for payment. I'll confirm your order also via Email, and will not charge to your card until we actually ship. 2) To upgrade from ANY old version of Flash, you must send us your old Flash disk as proof of ownership. It will be returned to you. Since we need to see proof of ownership for upgrades, you'll have to do the mail order thing here. Upgrades are $30 US plus $4 shipping and handling. You can pay using either check, money order (in US funds) or VISA and MasterCard. When upgrading, you receive *exactly* the same package as those who pay the full amount. For mail orders, our address is: Missionware Software 354 N. Winston Drive Palatine, Illinois 60067-4132 USA For those of you that send me your address, you'll be receiving a newletter soon (I hope) with basically the same information in it as posted above. I'm starting to work on that information sheet now, and once it's done and I get the mailing labels printed, I'll get it sent out...hopefully within a week. Also, we're working on a demo version which we'll post here as soon as we can. The demo will be as functional as we can make it, and will be time limited for your online time, and will probably prevent you from saving some files. Again, as soon as we can get it done, I'll get it posted here for you. I know you're all anxious to play with the program. One other thing. Since Flash II is a brand new program, newly written from the ground up, we figure you'll find some problems that our beta testers missed. Because of that, we'll be offering a free maintenance upgrade about 3 to 4 months down the road for all current owners. You'll need to ship us your master disk. We'll put the new software on it, and ship it back to you at no cost. If the upgrade can be done by posting a patch program here, then we'll do it that way. In any case, we want to make sure that all of your problems, if any, are resolved as quickly as possible so that we can move on to the many enhancements already on the list of "things to do" for future upgrades. Also, if anyone has a special requirement of some sort, or runs into a problem with, say, a terminal emulation mode, we'll try to get you on as a beta tester for future upgrades. That way we'll be certain to get fixed whatever problem you run into. Again, thanks for your interest an patience. We'll process your orders as quickly as we can, as well as answer your questions to the best of our ability. We're trying to get the author of the program, Paul Nicholls, here on GEnie. However, for those of you on CIS, Paul is there already. We'll be setting up support for the product there as well. ---------------- From Frank Bell about MultiGem - Cat. 2, Topic 9, Msg. 72 - from the ST Roundtable on Genie... The latest version of MultiGem is a little more compatable to GEM programs, is a little easier to install, and a little more stable. In April, late April, MultiGem II should be comming out where the number of processes (programs and accessories) should be unlimited (ok, within limits), program starts are handled better, programs can be stopped or slowed down (they remain in memory), and MG can be used as a Task Switcher. I don't know if MG II will come out as an update, upgrade, or whatever, but it doesn't seem so. The price, in Germany, is the same as the MG I. ---------------- From John Hoffman - Cat. 9, Topic 47, Msg. 107 - from the ST Roundtable on Genie... I just got back from my local Atari Computer store today... And notice another great looking FRP type game!!! Legend. It is another 3D 3rd person perspective game. The picture on the box reminded me of hero quest but with more things to investigate. Wow, once I finish Knightmare there will be so many new choices for FRP games; Heimdall, ShadowLands, Disciples of Steel or Legend. All new in the last couple of months. I have bought Heimdall. So I will give my first impressions. It seems like a good game but with too much disk swapping. I have a 4MB MegaST with one floppy drive. In playing the game, you travel from island to island and explore the dungeons or areas on the islands. The first few are pretty small but I may not have completely explored all the areas. When going from one island to another, a minimum or 2 disk swaps were required before exploration of the island began. On some of the more complex islands there were intermediate areas that would require 2 or more disk swaps before continuing. On island I went two actually required FOUR disk swaps before exploration began. On the good side the graphics are quite nice. Maybe an 8.5 on a scale of 1 - 10. While exploring a section of dungeon there generally aren't any disk swaps.. (ie combat, traps, magic, or effects displayed don't trigger disk accesses. I played for about 2-3 hours before having all my main characters die. My characters died from lack of food which is used to recover lost hit points. Happily, I didn't experience any bugs in the program. The game comes on five disks and requires a 1Meg ST. I visited 5 islands and completly expored only one. The map with the game shows at least 36 islands on three different maps. Even with the exploration I did and many battles none of my characters progressed past first level. The user interface is a combination of joystick and mouse operation. The user interface works very well. Reading the documentation about useing both mouse and joystick sounded awkward but in use is very natural. While this game is interesting, I don't know if I will have the patience to put up with the disk swapping. The installation documentation imply that both Amiga and ST must endure swapping while dos users will be able to install on Hard Disk. This is sad since a good game may be made playable by only by the stout of heart. I don't think there is anyway to get the software to run on hard disk because the disks are all in an unreadable format... I think that I will have to decide for my next purchase between Disciples of Steel, ShadowLands and Legend. Someone said that there was a bug in Disciples of Steel... So while Disciples looks like the one that is most interesting. The rumour of a bug and 79% rating in ST Format will probably cause me to select ShadowLands, which got a better review in ST Format 84%. Of course Legend is too new. I'll hope that someone will review it soon. ---------------- Until next week..... _________________________________________________________ > STR Portfolio News & Information Keeping up to date... ================================ THE ATARI PORTFOLIO FORUM ========================= On CompuServe by Judith Hamner 72257,271 EXTRA! EXTRA! """"""""""""" The forum staff announces a new programming contest. Any program in any language is eligible. Programs must be submitted by midnight April 30 to lib 1. See message #28538 for details. Don't forget to include your name in the file description so I can give you credit. TMW11.ZIP is an updated version of TMW. This utility provides quick access to the current and next days appointments from your .dry file. LOCK.ZIP contains the lock.com and unlock.com programs from PCMag's utilities. These programs allow easy file encryption for security on the Portfolio. Thanks to Peter Bennett for the upload. DSPPGC.ARC is a PGC viewer that runs on the Atari ST computers. It will display PGC files on the ST in any of its three resolutions. FONTS.ZIP contains five .PGC files. These are samples demonstrating the possibilities of the new Windows 3.1 Paintbrush and WINPGC from David Stewart. STHNGE.ZIP is an animation by Peter Bennett. Stonehenge is featured. ______________________________________________________ > ATARI ADVANTAGE! STR FOCUS "Now, THIS is an Atari Magazine!" ========================== DO YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE? ========================== by Dana P. Jacobson There's a new kid in town. He's called "Atari Advantage", a new Atari-specific magazine. That's right, you read it correctly the first time! The recent problems with MacDonald Associates and the split of some of the staff has actually created a bonus for Atari users. Not only do we still have ST Informer, but we also now have a new magazine, Atari Advantage. If you haven't received a complimentary copy yet, you're missing out on a great new magazine. I was a little tentative about a new magazine after what happened to the ill-fated Atari Journal a year ago. We've also been hearing that it was difficult and expensive to produce a magazine these days with the lack of advertising dollars magazines have been accustomed to seeing in years gone by. Atari Advantage seems to have found a solution, with its newsprint-like paper, in magazine format (like ST Informer is now, also). Advantage's staff consists of some of the former ST Informer folks, and some people who we've been acquainted with in the past. Mike Lindsay is the editor of Atari Advantage. Nevin Shalit moves his 'Rumor City' column to Advantage, as well. John and Jerry Davis offer plenty of MIDI coverage, with "Sir" Leslie Jennings joining them. I will take a guess and say that the "sir" signifies that Leslie is a male. Ron Robinson is the technical editor. Clay Walnum, former editor of ST-Log magazine, joins the staff with a Lynx column. Marshall Rosenthal will provide a monthly games column. Coverage of the Portfolio is said to be forthcoming in the future, with Mati King covering it. And this is just for starters. This premier issue is excellent; it contains a little bit of everything. The editorial relates to the readers how Atari Advantage was formed, and who the current staff members are and what they will be doing. It seems very appropriate for the first issue, titled "Our Roots". It also includes a new product announcements "column", which is very detailed. Very informative. Nevin Shalit's 'Rumor City' column is a welcome sight again. Nevin continues right where he left off a few months ago; nice to see that he hasn't lost his touch! This issue has a very comprehensive NAMM show report, including pictures of new products. If you're a MIDI fan, you'll want to check out this report. Ralph Turner's "trilogy" of Atari "How-To" books are reviewed, and makes for interesting reading. After being an Atari user for 5+ years, I just may buy these books after reading the reviews! There are also six other reviews in this issue: The Forget-Me-Clock II, DC Shower, Diamond Back 2.41, The Learning Games Package (a collection of Dorothy Brumleve's kid programs), EdHak 2.30, and Protext 5.0. An interesting assortment of products, and all of these reviews are very extensive. I prefer an extensive review, and these fit the bill. Clay Walnum is probably best known for his ST-Log days, and recently for his programming books. What some people don't realize is that Clay has also written a book covering Lynx games. With the sudden rush of new games coming out for the Lynx, Clay will be reviewing the new titles. As he writes early on in his column, he'll be providing information on the latest games, and occasionally some strategy tips for some of his favorite games. His initial column covers Xybots and Awesome Golf, with strategies for playing Chip's Challenge. I wish that I had my hands on these tips when I first started Chip's Challenge!! Marshall Rosenthal takes us into the Winter CES show with more Lynx product announcements and some details of a few of the games to be coming out shortly. For you Lynx owners, Clay's and Marshall's columns should provide plenty of coverage. It's nice to see the Lynx get more coverage than most magazines have provided in the past. And, that's just the first issue! The magazine is printed on paper stock similar to AtariUser and ST Informer, but perhaps a little heavier. It appears that two different types of paper were used in the same issue, however. The cover and the first few pages consist of white paper stock which feels a little heavier than the newsprint pages. I don't know why they did it this way; and maybe they'll decide on one over the other by the time that the next issue comes out. Personally, I don't care as I'm more interested in what's printed _on_ these pages rather than what it's printed on! There's plenty of advertising, which is nice to see. It shows a great deal of support for this newcomer. The advertising is also spread out very nicely so it doesn't clutter the pages. The magazine contains 64 pages (including covers). Atari Advantage is offering the magazine at a discount, at least until the end of April. You can subscribe for just $11.00 a year (12 issues). According to the coupon offer in the magazine, this offer is only good by mail. My check is on the way! After April, the subscription rates will be $22.00, so get yours in soon. Atari Advantage Magazine Lamplight Publishing 400 Galice Road Merlin, OR 97532 (503) 476-3578 __________________________________________________________________ > LEXICORE WARNING STR FOCUS LEXICORE RIPPED OFF! ========================== FOLLOW-UP REPORT INCLUDED.... LEXICORE RIPPED OFF! ==================== NOTICE: TO ALL Lexicor has determined and confirmed that it's former distributor and product manufacturer is making and selling PIRATE copies of Lexicor's software products. If you have purchased any Lexicor products from RIO COMPUTERS we suggest that you make the following tests to see if you may have purchased a PIRATED program. 1. The first telltale sign is the "SERIAL.NUM" file on the disk. Check to see if its different from the serial number written on the label of the disk. Another indication is the creation date stamp. Check to see if this file carries a creation date stamp of 02/03/28. Also, check the date stamp on the NUM file and see if it is the same as the one for the .PRG file. If they are more then _a minute_ apart then you probably have a PIRATED program. Now, RUN the Program, if it is Prism paint or Prism Render then the serial number will be found in the "About" dialogue. If these two numbers are not the same then once again, you probably have a Pirated program. 2. All these numbers can be the same and you still may have a PIRATED copy. We have been investigating this situation for some time and found a number of identical programs sold to more than one person. In some cases the numbers match and in some cases they do not. 3. What you should do if you suspect you have a pirate copy. 4. First, call lexicor and tell us why you think you have a Pirate Copy. 5. Next - if Instructed to.. send your Pirate goods to LEXICOR. 6. If you have been one of the victims, we suggest that you file a complaint with the US Postal Service's fraud division and the US POSTAL crime detail. You can get the information for your local postal crime unit at your local post office. 7. Lexicor policy on these PIRATED goods: If we can determine that the software you have is stolen we will confiscate it for use in possible legal action and as evidence. WE will, as a courtesy, replace your goods when we receive proof of purchase from RIO COMPUTERS or your Local Store. You should however, demand a refund from RIO COMPUTERS. Lexicor cannot warrant any of these PIRATE goods. If you have purchased any such product and you send it to Lexicor and you receive a replacement and a refund then you should send that money to Lexicor. If you do, Lexicor will reinstate the warranty. I know that this all seems like a lot of trouble, and it is. But neither you nor Lexicor created this problem. There is no excuse what so ever for copyright infringement. This does not happen accidently and is virtually impossible for anyone to accidently make illegal copies during manufacture. Lexicor has ceased all business activities with RIO COMPUTERS and urges all Lexicor owners to buy from an authorized ATARI dealer or direct from Lexicor. We apologize for the inconveniences to any Lexicor customers and hope to have some new and exciting software for you soon. Lee Seiler LEXICOR Software April 2, 1992 __________ As a follow-up, STReport presents the following message from Lexicor Sfotware. FROM GENIE ------------ Category 25, Topic 13 Message 109 Fri Apr 10, 1992 LEXICOR [Lexicor] at 06:58 EDT To: Jim Ness Jim, Thats right you are a legal beagle!! I for got. Well you are right I haven't used any of the usual "XXX" language and for a good reason. I have a ever growing box of Pirate products sold,distributed,manufactured or what ever you want to call it, from Lexicor customers. These are real physical and undeniable, tangible things. I see no reason to play word games in this area at all. There is simply no way in the world that these products could exist unless they were manufactured illegally, no matter what contract dispute that might exist between Lexicor and RIO, no dispute over paid or unpaid invoices, numbers of products sold or lack of same excuses the making of duplicate serialized products. But your point is well taken in one sense and it won't hurt to clarify a bit. Lexicor has started receiving many, many pirated copies of Prism Render and some questionable copies of Rosetta. All of these copies have been sold at below suggested retail price by RIO and no one else. RIO received enough products to cover their Pre-sale of Prism and Rosetta, and no more. There are no extra products for RIO to use for their advertised close out sale. There is no other source of these products other than Lexicor. Lexicor has not received any sales reports or customer warranty data from RIO what so ever, which means that with the exception of the serial numbers shipped, (ie., one each) there is simply no way for there to be 4 or 5 duplicate products. Tomorrow there will be a general recall of all Rosetta and Prism paint. The purpose of this will be to test and locate as many Duplicate(Pirated) copies as we can. We will do every thing we can to treat both our customers and RIO fairly. And for the Record I have contacted RIO (with no Answer) and offered them a fair and reasonable deal to get out of this situation, which they created. This can never be made public for obvious reasons. I am how ever not going to stand by and let RIO or any one else defraud Lexicor or the General public with out saying something about it. If RIO feels that LEXICOR has failed to keeps it's contracts with them then the courts are the proper forum, not the market place. As I said before there is no excuse what so ever for making and selling duplicate copies of software to unsuspecting users, no matter what RIO may think of Lexicor. Thanks Jim...I had this wonderful mental image of you sitting at a high top desk with a visor and dimly lit candle gazing at a thick dusty law book rubbing your hands! :-) Lee ------------ __________________________________________________________________ > FSM-GDOS? STR FOCUS "Somewhere.... Over the Rainbow...." =================== THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD ===================== From Lloyd E. Pulley, Sr. Senior Staff Editor A few weeks ago, one of our readers asked us when FSMGOS was going to be available to everyone and how long had the users been waiting for it. I did a little digging around and here's what I found out... Almost two years ago rumors started surfacing about the new FSMGDOS, a much improved version of GDOS. A little over year later, delivery dates started to be announced. 1) On February 10, 1991 on Genie, Bill Rehbock said that FSMGOS "should" be on sale by March. 2) On June 27, 1991, Bill Rehbock said that the current release time "would" be August 1st. The developer beta-testing had taken longer than had been expected. 3) On August 4, 1991, John Townsend said that FSMGOS's release had missed the August 1st date but that Atari was "real close" to a final release version. 4) On August 30, 1991, Bill Rehbock stated that there had been "delays in the package design", that the first release versions units "would show up" at the Glendale show. He also stated that Goldleaf would probably be shipping FSM-GOS with their products, only without the outer box. 5) On October 12, 1991, Bob Brodie that FSM-GDOS was currently shipping with Goldleaf's product. As for the regular release version, the best he could say was... RSN. 6) On November 7, 1991, Bill Rehbock said that... A) Atari had problems with the original source that was doing the artwork for FSM and had turned the box design chores over to Stephen Samuels of San Francisco. B) A few minor bugs had turned up and a new feature had been added. C) Some other speed-enhancements have also been added. D) FSM would be on the dealer's shelves within four weeks from the date that the box art was turned over to the duplication and packaging service, i.e., "Mid December". 7) On December 6, 1991, Bill Rehbock said that FSM GDOS would be available in January. 8) On December 9, 1991, Bill Rehbock said that FSM GDOS would be avail- able in January and would be the same as the version that GoldLeaf was currently distributing. 9) On January 18, 1992, John Townsend said that Atari was still working on the packaging. There had been some complications with the company they were working with and the release date had been pushed back. 10) On February 1, 1992, Bill Rehbock reported that the packaging was done and the last revision of the disks were going to the duplicator on Monday, February 3rd. FSM GOS should be appearing on the dealers shelves very shortly. 11) On March 25, 1992, Leonard Tramiel. Vice President of Software at Atari, was asked, "Where's FSMGDOS". He answered with "FSM is not yet released." On follow up, when asked about having a "guestimate on availability of FSM GDOS", his answer was "Nope...". So, there you have it. After a year of promises, FSM GDOS is still not available as a stand alone program to the dealers. When will it be available? The best that I can tell you is, "RSN". Then there is MetaDos and the CD ROM........ But, that's another story. __________________________________________________________ > ACE '92 STR SHOW NEWS Toronto Atari Federation's AtariFest ===================== THE 1992 TAF SHOW ================= by Michael Lee Comments about last weekend's TAF (Toronto Atari Federation) show - Cat. 11, Topic 6 - from the ST Roundtable on Genie... From Darlah (RT Sysop) - Msg. 203... This is the second day of the show. The activity is still high. I would compare it with WAACE and Glendale. Actually they might even surpass it. The show is going well. The developers are selling out. The Codeheads sold out of Warp 9 the 1st day. I heard similar things from others. From Lou Rocha - Msg. 205... You bet it's a great show. The crowds didn't slow down until after 5:00 p.m.... heavy aisle traffic since 10:00 this morning. This show is steamin'. Tomorrow I am going to take another look at the Optical Mouse across the aisle from me. My hand is going into the cash pocket...... I was amazed watching the BOINK demo on Jim Allen's souped up Mega with the Turbo 030. There was lots of interest and many, many questions about performance, installation, etc. Jim was his usual jovial self and novice to expert enjoyed his enthusiasm and expertise. My high point was using SL on a full TT color system with a thermal dye 300 dpi printer. My God, it was amazing. People were lined up all day waiting for the color printout samples being churned out on this system. I worked the station for a while and chatted with user types from clubs in Michigan and Illinois (GLACE and ?) and was charmed by their interest and their knowledge. Of course, I never missed an opportunity to ask folks how they enjoyed SL and if they connected with GEnie. Unfortunately, too many said "no". There are more than forty vendors at this show and everybody says they are enjoying brisk business. All I know is that everyone is smiling - the Toronto Atari Federation, Geoff Earle, the vendors and, most importantly, the users. The Codeheads were very busy and Todd Johnson was working in the booth with them. It took me three tries before I could say hello to Todd at 4:00 p.m. John and Charles looked very busy there, upgrading QUICK ST to Warp 9 and selling out the Codehead catalog. I upgraded to Warp 9 myself and will install it in a few minutes. I can't wait to see this work with my Fast Technology T25 and Calamus SL! I met a fella with a product called WPSWITCH (23.00) which is one of those WP data file translators with some enhancements, like the ability to automatically insert TABS when it encounters 3 spaces in a row. Hmmmm, sounds like just what I need for my spreadsheet imports to Calamus. I think I'm going to order one of those. A number of local stores (yes, there's more than ONE in THIS town) had great prices on software, supplies and hardware. My friend Sonny from Compuworld says he closed his store today in order to make this show. His booth was three deep all day. John Janschiing (?) sold me a subscription to Atari Explorer, after giving away two free issues. Guess I better write that check to AtariUser now, right John and King? Toad Computers had some great prices on software and toner supplies. Other vendors were selling 9600 baud modems from 369.00 and up. I may have to bring the check book tomorrow! The MIDI workshops in the outer conference halls was a sight (and sound) to behold. The audiences were very enthusiastic and the presenters were informative and talented. Cleverly, all the MIDI vendors were grouped along the same aisleway in the outer hall, right beside the performers' stage, so I guess they are used to the decibel level :-) In the classrooms, I got a peak at Hyperlink but missed the Pagestream workshop. I was present at Mario's workshop with 20 people. Today he was presenting a tutorial on Calamus 1.09N. Tomorrow Calamus SL will be taught at 3:00 p.m. That 2 hour workshop had already been subscribed by 40 people at 2:00 p.m. today. Well, got to go now and run that Warp 9. I'll check in with you all tomorrow. Thanks for allowing me to use your space Jim :-) From Darlah (RT Sysop) - Msg. 209... I am winding down from the TAFF show. Again, I want to thank Charlie Townsley for all his help. The guy really is incredible. I thought the show was more active than any Atari show that I have been to in a long time. BOTH days were busy and that was truly exciting. You did great!!! Can't wait until the next one. From John Sheehan - Msg. 210... ...I'm exhausted - but the show is done, the hall is cleared, and the garbage swept out. My last vision of the Skyline - Bob Brodie, Dorothy, Shirley Taylor and others sitting around a table in the hotel bar. ACE '92 was great fun, and it was a privilege having all you (you all?) as guests here in Atari Country. As soon as I get settled in Kaduna, Nigeria, we'll be announcing the first African Atari Kavalcade. (AAK? Got to get a better name.)... From Todd (Cherry Fonts) - Msg. 212... Wow! What a show. I'm exhausted. Paul Collard and John Sheehan are to be congratulated on an excellent job!! Very well done! Thanks!... From Nevin Shalit - Msg. 213... Well, Toronto was a terrific show. The crowds were steady, and the visitors were very upbeat. I had a nice position sharing the CodeHead booth and found myself demonstrating Warp 9 and MultiDesk just about as often as I demo'd my own Tracker/ST! Sales were very very good for me...but I don't think I could touch the CodeHead's overall sales. The dealer meeting was very successful, and I'd like to thank Geoffe Earl for saving me from my very first (and hopefully very last) bout of stage fright. That's an experience I do _not_ want to repeat. I had a great time running Tracker/ST under MultiTOS...and got that warm fuzzy feeling every time I saw some wide-eyed 6 year old smiling from ear to ear while trying out Dorothy Brumleve's software.... From Gerry Cross - Msg. 218... I would like to add my congratulations to the TAF folks. Great job! I'm not a MIDI person myself, but what you did with that "midi alley" was great! I tried to do that sort of thing with the show in Detroit a few years ago and couldn't get anything near the cooperation you did with the local stores. I sure hope other groups can copy what you did. I was running around that show all of Saturday and missed chatting with a lot of the vendors. I promise to catch you folks at the next one.... From Lou Rocha - Msg. 219... Perhaps I will start with the organizers... the Toronto Atari Federation. This club has undergone some major leadership change and the new executive is sure shining bright after ACE '92. However, I must comment on the hordes of club members who staffed this show from Saturday morning to Sunday night. Every detail of organization was considered, from security to setup to clean up and carry out. All vendors were assisted, encouraged and supported in all manner of ways and they seemed to thoroughly enjoy the attention. I was so personally impressed, that I spent $30 to renew my membership after a 3 year lapse. :-) Hats off to TAF for a job well done and, in the words of past president John Sheehan, "We'll see you all at the 1993 show in '94." Here are my personal picks of the show - (and of course, these ARE biased :-) so don't you are free (and encouraged) to disagree - Most impressive new software I saw on display.... a tie - Coalesce from Wiz Works and Sudden View from (Sudden View?). Most impressive new software not on display, Warp 9. Heck, even the manual is impressive (nice job, Codeheads). Warp 9 also wins the award for the biggest pile of upgraded disks - Quick ST in the Codehead booth. Most impressive gimmick - the Retouche booth doing T Shirts for customizers. Most awesome hardware display - the Cyber Cube color card in the ISD/Atari workstation manned alternately by Mario Georgiou and Rolf Berger. Honorable mention to the Leonardo card display. Largest crowd attraction in the application category - Calamus SL churning out color prints on the Spectrastar printer. People actually waited 3 minutes to get printouts. Best recovery by a non-teacher in a teaching situation - Mario Georgiou after the SL class hardware bombed. Best bargain (publication) - all kinds of back issues of magazines WITH disks for $1.00 each all day Sunday. (STart, ST LOG, ST User, ST Action). Best bargain (hardware) - MEGA STe/4Mb for 599.00 US...located somewhere near the Wiz Works booth. Honorable mention to CS&S for the 375.00 ZOOM 9600 modems. Best bargain (software) - hundreds of $50-$75 games going for 7.50 to 10.00 at numerous booths. Best individual bargain - one of my buddies picking up C-Lab for $75.00 Canadian from one of the MIDI vendors. 0 Most interesting educational game - Multiplay from D.A.Brumleve. The options on this Math software make it instantly configurable and infinitely challenging. As well, a number of neat play options make it attractive to any child. And, it has been thoroughly field tested in schools. Most overpriced food - the in-house caterers who charged $2.50 per hot dog and $1.00 for a 6 oz cup of coffee. Mind you, the MIDI show was free while you ate :-) In conclusion, this was a total EVENT. I am personally committing myself to attending any more of these shows that I can afford to go to. Fun, exciting, informative and downright friendly. From David Thompson (JMG) - Msg. 220... Just want to add our appreciate to the management of the ACE show. Great effort guys!!! Sales of HyperLINK didn't rival Warp 9, but were pretty decent! It's great going to a show where we don't have to fly or drive for 10 hours. (Toronto is just a nice leisurely drive down the QEW for 45 minutes) Once again, thanks for all the help, and while George and I could both use about 3 days of sleep to catch up on that one hour we lost Saturday night, we wouldn't have missed the show for anything.... From Dorothy Brumleve (Kidprgs) - Msg. 226... Our trip to (and from) Toronto was packed with unexpected frustrations, but the part in the middle -- the hotel part -- was well worth it! This was really a fine show! I enjoyed seeing my friends among developers and customers again...That Rob Guy, men in LUST, the Cassidy Crew, Bob "Happy Birthday" Brodie, oh, you know who you are! Met some new folks, too, like Lou Rocha (manual writer extraordinary), Shirley Taylor of Atari Corp., Al Fasoldt and company, people who spoke French _well_, what a crowd, eh? I finally wound up at the rowdy table at the banquet (interesting banquet in other ways, too!), and, although I was rarely a direct participant, I served well in the role of The Bad Influence. The banquet included the issuing of several awards. I took 1st in Speech Disruption (Women's Individual Category)! The TAF folks did a wonderful job! From the pre-show brochures to the banquet menus, this was a class act! Paul Collard brought his lovely daughters, Honor and Cadence, 'round to shill at my booth, and they performed admirably. John Sheehan, Father to many, wasn't accompanied by his flock, but he did invite me to his planned AtariFest in Nigeria, which should occur shortly after John (and an ST) arrive there. Atari Canada supplied equipment which functioned flawlessly. My booth neighbors provided power strips. Various TAF volunteers looked after our needs, hand-truck in tow, and simplified our vendor lives. Thanks to all of them, and also to Nathan Potechin of ISD (Kidpublisher Professional's most formidable competitor) for his help in getting our products through customs and to the show. The singing of O Canada! at the banquet was a new one on me. Turns out it starts out like a hymn familiar from my childhood -- but the last note in each line is decidedly different. This afforded me an opportunity to sing even more off-key than usual, and since I was so confident of the melody, I did so loudly and en francais. That's Bad Dot, always eager to make a fool of herself for the amusement of others. John Jainschigg of Explorer wisely brought the latest and decidedly greatest issue, the only issue in recent memory which contains an article I wrote. Time to subscribe, folks! I plan to write more! We shared a booth with John Hutchinson (Hutch) of Fair Dinkum. I'd only known him before through our GEnie communications. It's always neat to make a friend online and discover he can be a friend in real life, too. The alliance worked out well; our products attract some of the same customers, so they could find us in one spot. We engineered a booth placement smack dab (short for D.A. Brumleve) between WizWorks! and CodeHead. This seemed to have worked well for our neighbors, as both of them were able to pick up a few sales as our customers crowded around waiting for attention at our booth. I brought along my educational consultant, Michael Marks, the man who would like to claim all credit for the genius of my work and who has a legitimate right to at least some share of it. We've developed a new system for booth sales: he shows the products while I am off having fun and I show up in time to fill out the VISA receipts. Michael developed laryngitis on the way up to the show; his real voice is louder and smoother. He managed to present a seminar anyway. I enjoyed arguing with him in front of an audience. I hope the audience enjoyed it, too. ;-) A customer, Jon Dinga, interviewed me regarding shareware. I was in a bad mood toward shareware at that moment and said many things that are only true in the context of reality. I told him not to quote me on anything, but he's got it on tape... Our transportation problems were eased by the friendly Canadians who found us in their midst. When our private plane (I say "our" only to protect the identity of the real owner; I do not personally own a plane nor do I _ever_ anticipate purchasing one) developed engine trouble, the folks at some kind of plane gas station in Windsor (and other nearby businesses we invaded) were wonderful. Even provided me with a place to smoke -- and fume! It was from these fellows that I learned this little saying: Have time to spare? Then go by air! Unfortunately, I didn't have time to spare. I was supposed to talk at the dealer meeting which preceded the TAF show on Friday afternoon, but arrived in Toronto via rented car about five hours later. Several dealers did drop by my booth on Saturday and Sunday, so all was not lost in this regard. I want to thank Atari Canada for the opportunity issued to developers to make presentations to their dealers; it's a wonderful concept and I deeply regret that I was unable to participate this time. Good show, eh? See you all in 18 months! From Charlie Townsley - Msg. 229... Well, as one of the volunteers, I'd like to comment on the GREAT support Atari Canada (and Sunnyvale) made. Not being a total idiot, I showed up late on Friday and missed unloading the first truckload of equipment from Atari's warehouse, but was on hand to help with the other two. I noticed a lot of peoples names on the equipment we unpacked; Atari had cleaned out their OFFICES to stock this show. John and Paul nearly killed themselves doing this show, and deserve all the Kudo's possible, but I'm sure they would be quick to point out (if awake) that without Geoff's overboard support it couldn't have been half as good. Still, I was impressed with the amount of detail they had thought out in every area. I've seen professional shows that were not as well organized... From Dave Small (Gadgets By Small) - Msg. 234... Wow, everyone's said all the nice things I logged in to say! This has to be among the best, if not THE best, shows I have ever been to in my life. Paul and John deserve some sort of medal (hmmmm... SST?) for making it happen. They had a "can-do" attitude and it showed. I saw Paul the end of the second day and I have rarely seen a tireder human, maybe someone at the end of a 26-mile marathon... maybe. To them and all the anonymous volunteers goes the credit for this total winner! Many people were very kind. Nathan of ISD and Geoffe Earl of AtariCan made the effort to wedge me into the dealer schedule. Don Bahr of Computer Cellar did an on-the-spot fix of my MCU chip on my Mega and Don, I still have your bottle of tweek ... tried to find ya! Dorothy Brumleve was kind enough not to kill me when the vodka and orange juice screwdriver I brought her turned out to be a very fierce double (*grin*), but wow, the stories were worthit. Bob Brodie, as usual, did a thousand things that will never be known to make this happen. Charles and John and Nevin taught me the meaning of "wind chill" on the way to a fine dinner, so now I know (grin). Originally, we weren't going to hit this show (we're so far behind on order backlog), but people like Nathan and Dorothy talked us into it, and I am very, very glad they did. This one was great. Special mention should be given that Atari Corp. was showing some new hardware at this show. I should not say more in particulars, except that shows the sort of thing that went into this show. I know that myself and some others came away from it feeling more hopeful about Atari's future than we have in in a long, long time. Thanks, you know who. [Yes, it was a private showing, but the people involved took pains to let folks see it to try and exert some positiveness on Atari's future.] I look forward to when it's public and you can all be as totally blown away as I was/am. It was the sort of show where you need to borrow a floppy, you ask George (HyperLink), he gives you four, and refuses any money for them... It was the sort of show where someone brings you a QUART (liter) of Diet Pepsi, because they have heard you like it, gratis ... When I was scheduled for a talk, bang, 15 minutes before, there would be an ACE volunteer there to remind me, just in case. And there were constantly roaming volunteers asking if all was okay, if we needed anything; I was easily asked 10 times a day if there was anything I needed. Wow!... ...Personally, I believe Paul and John and ACE and Atari and everyone has set a standard whereby shows will be measured by in the future. Thanks to all the people I have and have not mentioned; it was wonderful. ------------ Until next week..... __________________________________________________________________ > SILHOUETTE 1.36 STR Review Silhouette 1.36 PART II ========================== SILHOUETTE 1.36 PART II ======================= from MAXWELL C.P.U. by Doyle C. Helms -- STaff Editor The last installment covered the LOAD and SAVE functions of Silhouette 1.36. I discussed the formats which Silhouette will import and export in both the raster and vector graphic formats. This installment will look at some the tools that is contained in Silhouette for the user to employ in their artistic creations. The majority of tools found in Silhouette are of the "standard" type such as the LINE (including RAYS), BOXES (rounded and square), SPRAY CAN (user adjustable in both quantity and shape), POLYLINE, FREEHAND, CIRCULAR ARCS and ELLIPTICAL ARCS. The ARC functions have special mouse/keystrokes to use specialized features of these tools. What are the "special" features you ask? Well... If the SPACE BAR is used in conjunction with the CIRCULAR ARC tool, the user can define the 3 points of the arc. One being the center point, the second being one end point and the third, the other end point. If the LEFT SHIFT KEY is used with this tool, Silhouette will convert your arc to its complement arc. If the SPACE BAR is used along with the ELLIPTICAL ARC tool, the mouse pointer will be "transported" to the next defining arc point. This feature allows the three arc points to be defined and or moved separately for precise placement of the arc points. The LEFT SHIFT key used here also creates the complement arc. The SPRAY CAN tool can be adjusted for size of spray by using the ARROW keys. The LEFT SHIFT KEY is used again here to toggle the spray pattern from rounded to square. Lets move on to some of the more interesting tools found in Silhouette. The POLYGON and STAR tools are two unique tools found in Silhouette. Using the LEFT SHIFT KEY (I like the consistency of the KEY commands) with either the POLYGON or the STAR tool allows rotation of the POLYGON/STAR through a half angle so either the vertex point or a side is at exactly 12 O'clock. The STAR tool possess two radii: an outer radius where the points of the STAR terminate, and an inner radius where they begin. The inner radius can be adjusted with the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. the UP and DOWN ARROW keys increase or decrease the number of POINTS(STAR) or SIDE(POLYGON). 99 points or sides is maximum and 3 is the minimum. The PARABOLA tool draws PARABOLA arcs.The ARROW KEYS play are part also in the shape of the user definable parabola. The SPIRAL tool is a blast to play with, and can also be quite useful in creating original works of art. The SPIRAL tool, when selected creates a simple spiral line. The UP and DOWN KEYS define the number of revolutions within the SPIRAL. The + and - keys control the pitch of the SPIRAL arms. The RIGHT and LEFT SHIFT keys "roll" or "unroll" the SPIRAL from the center. The CLIP function in Silhouette is "standard". If you have used the CLIP function in TOUCH-UP, this one is very similar. The difference in Silhouette and TOUCH-UP is that Silhouette possess a CLIP BUFFERS. The FILL PATTERN selection allows the user to easily define FILL patterns in TRANSPARENT, XOR or REVERSE TRANSPARENT modes. The user defined fills can be saved for recall later. The GRAY SCALING of vector graphic fill patterns also be defined. The text function in Silhouette is "standard" in terms of its method of entry. One plus to Silhouette is that it is FSMGDOS compatible. Silhouette has 3 work windows in which all editing is executed. The first (by default) is the RASTER WINDOW. The second is the VECTOR WINDOW. The third is the PIXEL WINDOW. The RASTER window is for the importing of the various raster graphics that Silhouette is capable of loading. The VECTOR window is of course for the creation and manipulation of the VECTOR format graphics (EPS,GEM (1.1 and 3.0) and SVG native format). The PIXEL window is similar to a ZOOM work area in other programs. All windows are of course capable of scrolling. The PIXEL editing window/option has some unique features. They are PEN CONTROL- Free, Vertical and Horizontal. The pen editing size is also controllable. PIXEL color has four options. FREE, XOR,BLACK and WHITE. The RASTER window has INVERT IMAGE (reversal of colors) and ERASE SCREEN as options. The VECTOR window has the options of Display Raster (as greyed background), Display Selected, Grid System, Snap points and lastly Set Grid/SNAP. The VECTOR window also has the ability to MAGNIFY by factors of 1(normal),2,4 and 16 times. The SNAP function is quite in-depth as far as user selections. The user can choose to SNAP TO GRID, SNAP TO GEO POINTS or SNAP TO INDEPENDENT POINTS. The GRID setting have 6 "Americanized" presets for the grid measurements. There is also 6 metric settings. The user can also define his/her own particular setting in either format. Lets take a quick look at the DRAWING OPTIONS that is included in Silhouette. The DRAWING OPTIONS include user defined LINE WIDTHS. Two options of setting the line widths are offered. The "standard" is for the line width in PIXELS. The second option allows the width to be set in POINTS. Yes, POINTS, like that of font sizes in other DTP applications. There is an option for LINE TYPES. There again is the options of the "standard" line types and also the option to define your own LINE STYLE. The user has the option of also choosing the LINE END STYLE. The DRAWING MODE selections include XOR,REPLACE,REVERSE TRANSPARENT,TRANSPARENT and OBJECT PERIMETER. The OBJECT PERIMETER defines whether a draw object will have an outline perimeter. The SMOOTH POLYLINE option is a nice feature for us users that have a bit of a "shaky" hand when it comes to freehand drawings. This option allow the user to "smooth" the objects, whether they are FREEHAND or POLYLINE objects. The option allows settings of the numbers of POINTS TO SKIP, the COARSENESS of the CURVE and the WEIGHING FACTOR. The smoothing method can also be set to one of three options, B-SPLINE, N POINT BEZIER or 4 POINT BEZIER. The EDIT OBJECTS (VECTOR) option contains some welcome features that I wish Easy Draw (A CLASSIC in the Atari world IMHO) contained. Let's quickly list the types of ATTRIBUTES that are available for the user to define. FILL TYPE, PERIMETER ON/OFF, LINE WIDTH,LINE TYPE,LINE ENDS,FONT TYPES,FONT SIZES and lastly FONT EFFECTS. The effects are Normal,Bold,Light,Skew,Underlined and Outlined. The SELECT ALL options allows the user to select ALL objects in the VECTOR work window without having to manually choose each and every object. The ORDER OBJECTS allows the user to choose whether the objects are displayed in REVERSE ORDER, BRING TO TOP or SEND TO BOTTOM. The VECTOR OBJECT DUPLICATION option also has some unique features I have not found in other programs of this type. DUPLICATION METHOD give the choices of FREE STYLE, RADIAL OFFSET and CARTESIAN OFFSET. the user has the option of DUPLICATION of OFFSET POINTS also. The LINE WIDTHS, ROTATION GRAY SCALE and VERTICAL/HORIZONTAL of the duplicated object can be set upon selection of the DUPLICATE OPTION. Very ingenious and very welcome feature! The EDIT POLYLINE option allows the user to edit not only the freestyle creations of the user, but also the included objects such as STARS,POLYGONS,RECTANGLES,PARABOLAS,LINES,BEZIERS and B- SPLINE. The editing options include TRAPEZOID to the RIGHT or LEFT, FREE CORNER WARP,SKEW HORIZONTALLY,SKEW VERTICALLY and VERTICAL SIZES. Silhouette also contains the "standard" FLIP,MIRROR and ROTATE object commands. AUTO-TRACING ! This is the meat of Silhouette 1.36. The other options are just potatoes in comparison! (Sorry vegetarians, no offence intended, just the meat eater in me sneaking out ;> ). The AUTO-TRACE function in Silhouette 1.36 contains several user definable options. SIMPLE TRACE,BREAK POINT TRACE,SPLINE BREAK POINTS,B-SPLINE SMOOTHING and BEZIER SMOOTHING. CURVE FACTOR and LINE FACTOR is a welcome option here also! The user is given the choice of CLIP AREA TRACING. SELECTIVE TRACING is a future option. TRACE ASSISTANCE is also available. It would take another two or three installments to fully explain the TRACING functions available. So, just let me summarize my opinion of the TRACING features of Silhouette. FANTASTIC! The available output options from Silhouette of traced objects is very acceptable at the price level of this program. The addition of CVG output will greatly increase Silhouettes value. Summary In my opinion, Silhouette 1.36 is a very acceptable program for the price/performance ratio. Sure, there are other programs available NOW that have more advanced features, but NOT at the price of Silhouette. If you are on a limited budget, (did I just here Lincoln squeal?) then Silhouette is for you. I personally believe that Silhouette is also a professional quality program with a bright a growing future ahead. Mr. Reyes has put MANY hours effort and concern for quality into this program and has held the price down for ALL to have a chance to enjoy and use an AUTO-TRACE program on the Atari, be it a 1040 at 8 Mhz or a TT with google-bytes of RAM and 720,000 Mhzzzz of CPU speed. Silhouette 1.36, the AUTO-TRACER for the rest of us... ____________________________________________________________ > SET SEEK STR InfoFile CODEHEAD, BLAZING THE PATH OF TRUE SUPPORT! ===================== SetSeek User Documentation -------------------------- Software and Documentation by John Eidsvoog Copyright 1992 CodeHead Technologies Revision: Wednesday, March 25, 1992 SetSeek is freeware and is included with the TEC Utilities disk from CodeHead Technologies ------------ What it is ------------ SetSeek allows you to set the seek rate of your floppy drives. It works on all current versions of TOS and should work on new versions also (although this cannot be guaranteed). You can configure SetSeek for rates of 2, 3, 6, and 12 milliseconds for drive A and B. Once configured, it can be placed in your AUTO folder to set the rate every time you boot up. With the advent of TOS 2.06, you can install high-density (HD) floppy drives in your Atari. This new TOS sets the floppy seek rate to 6 milliseconds (ms) to allow for the doubled clock rate when reading HD disks. Normally, the seek rate is set to 3 ms and the change in rate to 6 ms causes some drives to make rather irritating sounds. If you do not have a high-density drive, there's no need to leave the seek rate at 6 ms, but as of this date, the only way you can change it back to 3 ms is by using SetSeek. --------------- Using SetSeek --------------- You can run SetSeek like any other Atari program, by double-clicking on its name. A dialog box will appear with buttons for setting the rate of drive A and B. (If you only have one floppy drive, the buttons for drive B will be disabled.) You can set the rate to 2, 3, 6, or 12 milliseconds. To the right of each row of rate buttons is a button marked "Test". Clicking on "Test" will cause the mechanism of the appropriate drive to seek back and forth the entire length of a disk (you may need to make sure there's a disk in the drive). This allows you to hear how your drive reacts to the various rate settings. To determine the reliability of your drive at different speeds will require trial and error. Generally, you can use 3, 6, and 12 ms with no problems. (In case it's not obvious, the lower seek rates are faster.) Many drives will also work fine at 2 milliseconds also but there is no guarantee of this. If you decide to set your seek rate to 2 ms, make sure that your drives can reliably handle this speed before trusting valuable data to be written. The "Save" button will save the settings directly into the SETSEEK.PRG file. Make sure you do not rename SETSEEK.PRG or compress it (pack, squish, stomp, obliterate, etc.) or you will be unable to save the settings. The "Set" button will set the seek rates stored in memory to the rates shown on the screen. This will not permanently change them. A "Set" operation is performed whenever you click on either "Test" button. The "Get" button will read the current seek rate values stored in memory and select the appropriate buttons. When you run SetSeek, it will appear on the screen, showing the settings that are saved within SetSeek. If you want to examine the seek rate settings that are currently in effect in your computer, you can do so by clicking on "Get" (before clicking on "Set" or "Test"). The "Exit" button will exit you from SetSeek. Since it is the default button, you can also exit from SetSeek by hitting Return or Enter. -------------------- Installing SetSeek -------------------- Once you've configured SetSeek, if you want to change your seek rates every time you boot up, you should copy SETSEEK.PRG into your AUTO folder. When you boot up, the installation message will appear, showing you the seek rates that are being set for each drive. Distributed by: CodeHead Technologies P.O. Box 74090 Los Angeles, CA 90004 Phone: (213) 386-5735 FAX: (213) 386-5789 BBS: (213) 461-2095 _______________________________________________________________ > STReport's Editorial Page "Saying it like it is." From the Editor's Desk ---------------------- This has been a week to remember. After waking last Sunday with the chills, I soon discovered I was enjoying a relapse of the Flu! Right.... in Florida?? That's the question everyone asked me. Yup! In Florida is the only answer. Just like the recession, the flu knows no geographical or political boundaries. Actually , it gave me chance to catch up on some of my reading. This was a dilly, I was still ailing today putting this issue together. Sorry.... This has got to be a labor of love....! Monday saw Calamus SL arrive and reading I was... and still am. The documentation is very well written. In fact, is some of the "best" I've ever seen to date. Like most powerhouse programs, the documentation is extensive. More to come later,... While the economy is in a state whacky flux, the computer marketplace continues to move right along. The newer Hard Drive technology from companies like Quantum and Maxtor dwarfs the aspirations of others who 'try' to compete. The new type machines, either proposed, supposed or due on the shelves continues to whet the appetites of "technojunkies" from coast to coast. Atari, is preparing to "bestow" upon us a new genre of computer. One that is reported to be geared to "please" everyone. Time will tell. Ralph................. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" STReport's Staff DEDICATED TO SERVING YOU! ---------------- Publisher - Editor ------------------ Ralph F. Mariano PC DIVISION AMIGA DIVISION MAC DIVISION ----------- -------------- ------------ Roger D. Stevens Charles Hill R. ALBRITTON STReport Staff Editors: ----------------------- Lloyd E. Pulley Sr. Dana P. Jacobson Michael Arthur Lucien Oppler Brad Martin Judith Hamner John Szczepanik Dan Stidham Joseph Mirando Steve Spivey Doyle C. Helms Contributing Correspondents: ---------------------------- Michael Lee Richard Covert John Deegan Brian Converse Oliver Steinmeier Tim Holt Andrew Learner Norman Boucher Harry Steele Ben Hamilton Neil Bradley Eric Jerue Ron Deal Robert Dean Ed Westhusing James Nolan Vernon W. Smith Bruno Puglia IMPORTANT NOTICE ================ Please, submit letters to the editor, articles, reviews, etc... via E-Mail to: Compuserve.................... 70007,4454 GEnie......................... ST.REPORT Delphi........................ RMARIANO BIX........................... RMARIANO FIDONET....................... 112/35 FNET.......................... NODE 350 NEST.......................... 90:19/350.0 ____________________________________________________________ > STReport CONFIDENTIAL "Rumors Tidbits Predictions Observations Tips" ===================== - Sunnyvale, CA DELAYS AND LOSSES! ------------- From: The San Jose Mercury News, Thursday April 2, 1992: ATARI DELAYS 4TH QUARTER REPORT =============================== Troubled Atari Corp., the Sunnyvale manufacturer of personal computers and game hardware, said Wednesday it has notified the Securities and Exchange Commission it will delay reporting results for its fiscal 1991 fourth quarter, which ended Dec. 31. By law, the company had until March 31 to report the results or file formal documents with the SEC extending the filing date. A spokesman for the SEC in San Francisco said Atari is technically in violation of securities laws even if it has filed for the extension, but that enforcement action is unlikely if the company releases its figures "within a day or two." Companies that seek such an extension often do so in order to renegotiate terms with lenders and other creditors before releasing unfavorable results. Atari earned $1.6 million on $49.2 million in revenues in its third 1991 quarter. Atari's chief financial officer refused to accept a reporter's calls, saying through a secretary that results would be available "within a couple of days." Atari's shares closed unchanged at $2.75 in American Stock Exchange trading Wednesday. ----------------------- From: The San Jose Mercury News, Saturday, April 4, 1992 ATARI LOSES $4.4 MILLION ON SHARPLY LOWER SALES =============================================== Late Friday, troubled Atari Corp. reported a loss of $4.4 million for its fourth quarter on sharply lower revenues. The 8-cents-per-share loss for the Sunnyvale maker of personal computers and video-game hardware came on revenues of $96.2 million. In the fourth quarter of fiscal 1990, the company made a profit of $8.8 million, or 15 cents per share, on revenues of $151.9 million. The 1990 quarter's profit figure, though, included $28.8 million in extraordinary credits. The 1991 quarter included a $2 million credit for debenture repurchases. The company cut its operating loss for the 1991 fourth quarter to $9.4 million from $22.2 million in the 1990 quarter. For the year, sales dropped to $258 million from $411.5 million [Ouch! -GW] in 1990. Net income for the year was $25.6 million, compared with $14.9 million for 1990. But the 1991 figure includes a gain of $40.9 million on the sale of the company's manufacturing plant in Taiwan. And the 1990 profit included $35.7 million in extraordinary gains. The operating loss for 1991 was $18.7 million, compared with a loss of $25.2 million in 1990. Buying back debentures helped the company cut interest expense, which fell from $4.1 million in 1990 to $287,000 in 1991. In a statement, Atari President Sam Tramiel said, "The company has restructured its overhead and is focusing on the improvement of its balance sheet and the development of new products." On Wednesday, the company notified the Securities and Exchange Commission that it would delay reporting results for the fourth quarter. (Mercury News Staff Report) - Indianapolis, IN MIST Atarifest IV!! ---------------- The Time and date is Saturday, July 25, 1992 10:00am to 5:00 pm at the Castleway Conference Center, 6385 Castleplace Drive, Indianapolis, Indiana. Work continues on MIST Atarifest IV. They will be mailing the information packets by Wednesday, April 15. The packets will contain registration materials and information for MIST Atarifest IV. Vendors and user groups who have already reserved space or who have shown an interest in Atarifest IV are: Brasoft (GEMulator) Computer Works (Atari Sales) C.R.A.G. (Crown Point, IN) D.A. Brumleve (Kidprogs) INAGM (Atari Sales & Service) E.A.U.G. (Alton, IL) Missionware Software (Flash II) MS Designs (fonts and clipart) Unicorn Publications (AIM) MIST Atarifest IV will be an excellent opportunity for Atarians to buy and sell hardware and software. Admission to the fest will be $3.00 and will include a raffle ticket to win one of the many door priz es donated by attending vendors and developers. If you wish more information about MIST Atarifest IV or want to reserve a display space at this year's show, contact Dan Ward via GEnie (D.WARD10) or call (317) 254-0031. We hope to see you on July 25, 1992! Dan Ward : President of Atari ST Computers In Indianapolis (ASCII) Co-Chair of Mid-Indiana ST (MIST) ____________________________________________________ > STR Mail Call "...a place for the readers to be heard" ============= STReport's MailBag ================== From GEnie.. Category 7, Topic 19 Message 33 Sat Apr 04, 1992 S.FARWIG [STAN] at 01:39 EST Fred Happy to see someone still responding in this topic. And thank you for confirming a fear regarding SPECTRUM 512 and the STE series. I know now that the "E" series or the TT are not for me, at least until a program comparable to SPECTRUM is available for them. If I had room for two computers a possiblity might be to do Spectrum graphics on my Mega4, translate to GIF and then use PRISMPAINT(since it is the only paint program I know to load GIF) and use the increased pallette for further work. I phoned Trio Engineering when the JRi color board came out to ask if they might upgrade to SPECTRUM 4096 and was told no, the entire code would need rewriting and the market was too slim. I phoned a week or so ago to see if any response to the STE or even TT was planned. The phone has been disconnected and I fear ATARI has lost yet another brilliant graphics programmer(s). DRAT! I think what was in my message was "strictly true" in that it had reference to the official documentation for SPECTRUM and this was written long before the STE series. I was concerned that Sandy's explanation and reference to "borderline machines" might be misunderstood. I have encountered a number of SPECTRUM viewers and even a few users who either were unaware of the Sync program or unaware of its significance. And it seemed likely that DF's problems lay elsewhere. I am curious as to why SPECTRUM doesn't run on the STE's. I thought I had read that it was compatiable when the machines were switched to 8mhz? Is it perhaps thrown off by the increased pallette? Thanks for your message. Stan From the FNET Conf : STReport Online Msg# : 19515/19554 Lines: 18 Read: 2 Sent : Apr 03, 1992 at 7:31 PM Recv : Apr 06, 1992 To : Ralph Mariano From : Mike Wright at Fnet Node 75, Bloom County #75 Mtn. View, CA Subj : STR813 I noticed you were asking for feedback on your new format Ralph, so thought I'd mention to you how much I appreciate all the efforts from you and the staff at STREPORT. I think you have always done a fantasic job keeping everyone both informed and entertained for as long as I can remember. ST Report is *obviously* the online magazine of choice! I think I speak for most of your readers out there when I say this Ralph: You have always sought to constantly improve on your publication through hard work and dedication. And the results of this all this effort is very visible in each and every issue you and your staff releases! You've got a first class publication and can't think of anything I'd ask you to change! --Bitsmasher-- ~ AME 1.07 ~ ST REPORT: The leader in online "INFOTAINMENT"! From CIS #: 59893 S17/Community Square 07-Apr-92 10:35:31 Sb: #59846-Atari Delays 4th Q Reprt Fm: SYSOP*Ron Luks 76703,254 To: bob wilson 72355,1637 (X) I was very excited about the ST Book based upon the advance word. In fact, I almost placed an order for one without seeing it. Fortunately, the wife prevailed and said wait until you type on it and I'm glad she did. At $800, it would be a great unit (with 4Mb of RAM and a small HD). At $2300, its crazy. I am one of the few people who dont like the mouse-type implementation of those pressure pads. 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