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Article #323 (730 is last):
From: aa789@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bruce D. Nelson)
Newsgroups: freenet.sci.comp.atari.mags
Subject: Atari Explorer Online: 20-Dec-92 #SE-2
Reply-To: aa789@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bruce D. Nelson)
Posted-By: xx004 (aa789 - Bruce D. Nelson)
Date: Wed Dec 23 09:12:44 1992


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 ::  Special Edition #2      ATARI EXPLORER ONLINE     20 December 1992  ::
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 ::  ATARI .............. News, reviews, & solutions ............ ATARI  ::
 ::    EXPLORER ............ for the online Atari .......... EXPLORER    ::
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 ::      Editor ....................................... Travis Guy       ::
 ::        Assistant Editor ....................... Ron Robinson         ::
 ::           Assistant Editor .................. Albert Dayes           ::
 ::             Assistant Editor ........... Andreas Barbiero            ::
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 ::   President, Atari Corporation........................Sam Tramiel    ::
 ::   Director of Application Software...................Bill Rehbock    ::
 ::   Director, Computer Marketing ........................Don Thomas    ::
 ::   Director of Communications...........................Bob Brodie    ::
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                              Table of Contents


 * From the Editors ....................... We're back... with a Falcon030.

 * Ron's Random Ramblin' ..................... The Three "R's" - AEO style.

 * Lexicor GEnie RTC .............. Announcing the Phoenix Object Renderer.

 * Merry Lynxmas ................. Atari has "Such a deal" for all Lynx
                                   wannabyes. The perfect holiday present
                                   at a never-before seen price.

 * Developing News ................. -=- STraight FAX Distribution Change
                                     -=- DMC Promotion Extended
                                     -=- IAAD Membership List
                                     -=- Fair Dinkum Xmas Offer

 * Computing Heresy! ............................ MORE isn't always better?

 * AEO Survey Results ............................................... VPVD.

 * From the Libraries ............. Andreas looks at PhotoChrome3 and OXYD.

 * Atari Software Catalog ........... Everything you can run on your Atari.
                                      All in one book. It's a big book.
 
 * CuSTomer Support..................The Continuing Saga of Caveat Emptor
                                      reprinted courtesy of GEnie
                                      article by Don Harris

 * A Statement from Atari concerning ABCO Computer Consultants

 * Shutdown ........................................... Keep on hanging on.


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 |||
 ||| From the Editors ........ Atari Explorer Online: The Next Generation
/ | \--------------------------------------------------------------------


First, please allow me the privledge of wishing everyone the happiest of 
holiday seasons. Please, please, please temper that thought with the 
caution to drive and to boat carefully.

The darkest day of the year (well it is, up here in the Northern 
Hemisphere at least) is upon us, and Things Are Bound To Get Better.
 As one
example of Things Getting Better, EQ Magazine, The Recording and Sound 
Magazine, gave the Atari Falcon030 a "Blue Ribbon" Award - nice, for a
machine that isn't in the shops yet.

American shops that is. Germany has received the first batch of 
Falcon030s for sale. These machines are the 4 Meg/65 Meg HD version, and 
early reports indicate great interest. Look for lots more "outside of 
Atari Corp." raves about the Falcon030 in the weeks to come - and look to 
Atari Explorer Online to bring them to you.

This issue marks our second Special Edition of AEO (AEO Volume 2, Issue 1 
should hit the networks on Saturday Jan 2, 1993). In this issue you can 
find a potporri of items; we're introducing our "Developing News" section 
with news from Atari developers, Andreas has a quick look at two recent 
uploads, Oxyd and PhotoChome 3, and purely as an afterthought, we've 
included the first snapshots of the Falcon030's desktop.

Yes. We have a treat for everyone. Assiatant Editor Ron Robinson was the 
recipent of an Atari Falcon030 computer (poor Ron, he had to promise to 
slave away at the keyboard to provide Explorer/Explorer Online with
valuable insights of the machine). Ron came up with the four Falcon030 
snapshots included in this archive; all in Degas/Elite format, and all
viewable by ST/STE/TT machines. Their captions are:

DESKTOP.PC1: A directory window open alongside the drive icons. Notice the
3-D look to the gadgets on the window.

ICONS1.PC1: A selection of "animated" window icons clipped from the 
desktop. Of each pair, the icon on the left is the unselected state; the
icon on the right is how the icon appears when selected.

ICONS2.PC1: A few more color icons.

SETCOLOR.PI3: For those of you who can't view the color shots, a
monochrome display showing the new Set Video Display screen framed in 
front of a directory window (you get the 3-D gadgets in this shot also).

We checked all of the pictures with GEM View 2.0, and they look
great! You can even view them with a monochrome monitor. Naturally,
they look much nicer in color.

We hope to upload 256 color desktop shots (in GIF format) to the nets 
sometime this week.

Also last week, Andreas Barbiero walked out of Atari HQ with a beta
copy of ST Sutra/Atari Works/Consierge/Enselmble/Whatever. He also
made off with a copy of the SpeedoGDOS installation program to test:
Fourteen fonts, ACCs, CPXs, ...and the latest version of SpeedoGDOS.
We hope to have a preview of it in AEO and in Explorer soon.  Thanks
to Bill Rehbock, Director of Applications Software for helping us
(and Andreas!) out!

I was going to allow Ron, Albert and Andreas to take a moment here to 
introduce theirselves, but instead, I'll save that for two weeks' time - 
where you can also meet the rest of AEO's growing staff. Things are 
happening. Positive things.

Enough from me. Let's get on with the issue.


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 |||  Ron's Random Ramblin'
 |||  By: Ron Robinson
/ | \ GEnie: EXPLORER.1
      ---------------------


SPELLING SENTRY was delivered to me by one of my favorite people - the UPS
--------------  person - fresh from Toad Computers this week. Spelling
Sentry from Wintertree Software that is a wonderful spell check utility
that works on all Atari ST/TT computers. The utility combines "real time"
as you type spell checking with very intelligent suggestions for
misspelled words and includes a keyboard macro feature. There are many
other features such as the ability to check the clipboard which place
Spelling Sentry on my "must have" list for Atari owners.

    Wintertree Software Inc.,
    43 Rueter St. Nepean, Ontario Canada K2J 3Z9 - 613.825.6271

KODAK PHOTO CD should prove be a very hot item in conjunction with the
-------------- superb multimedia features built into the Falcon. To get
an advanced view of how Photo CD looks, stop by most any camera store to
see Photo CD quality and resolution in action.

Photo CD integrates the conventional film technology with digital image
storage on CD ROM. The process involves taking a roll of 35mm film to your
photo finisher and asking to have them transferred to PhotoCD (about
$15-20 for 24 photos). A few days later, you get a CD back with your
digitized photographs.

Conventional prints can be reproduced from the the PhotoCD images. You 
can transfer images from several disks to an "album" disk. The CD can then
be played on a video disk player capable of displaying PhotoCD format at
the baseline television resolution. Consumer players list in the $500
range but I have already seen them advertised for under $350.

On the computer side, Kodak's PhotoCD stores images in CD-ROM-XA
multisession format. This means each image has its own header, or
directory files. Most of the current CD ROM drives only recognize single
session (single directory) formats.

Images are stored in five 24 color formats with resolutions ranging from
192x128 "thumbnail", 768x512 "baseline television" to 3,072x2,048 "photo
quality". The initial film to CD load is 24 images but up to 100 images
can be placed on a single CD by returning the disk to the processor with
more exposed film you wish to transfer to disk.

Atari demonstrated Photo CD on the Falcon and Atari TT at Comdex along
with Calamus SL driving 24 bit video cards. Pioneer, Philips, Sony and
Toshiba have all announced plans to support the multi-session standards.

      Eastman Kodak Co., 343 State St., Rochester, NY 14650
      1.800.242.2424


VDT GLARE AND RADIATION can be an irritating side effect of using your
----------------------- computer system. Studies show a quality anti-glare
filter can eliminate computer induced problems such as eye strain, blurred
vision, headaches, and eye irritation. Glare from a monitor bouncing back
into your face can force you into uncomfortable postures, resulting in 
neck pain, backache and shoulder strain.

A good filter can eliminate glare, enhance contrast, improve view-ability
of text and graphics on the display, enhance colors and reduce screen
"flicker". By incorporating a grounded conductive coating into the
coating, electric field radiation and static electricity can be
eliminated. Experts are recommending that we stay at least three feet
away from out TV's to avoid the effects of ELV/VLF and "E" field radiation
coming from the front of your monitor.

A bad filter can be worse than none at all. One of the best filters I have
run across is from a company called OCLI in Santa Rosa California. OCLI
has extensive experience with NASA and the military in producing very high
quality optical coatings. They offer a wide range of filters for all sizes
of monitors starting a prices under $42. A full feature universal fit
filter for a 14" monitor runs $69 at CompUSA.  Worth checking out:

    OCLI Glare/Gard, 2789 Northpoint Highway, Santa Rosa, CA 95407-7397
    1.800.545.6254

A TOUGH NEW SOFTWARE PIRACY LAW has made software pirating a felony instead
------------------------------- of a misdemeanor. Those pirates now face
possible fines up to ten times higher than before, and jail sentences that
are as much as five times greater. Offenders can face $250,000 in fines
and five years in jails. According to the FBI's Washington unit chief,
Charles Owens, "As long as software piracy was only a misdemeanor, we
couldn't justify expending lots of resources on it. We don't have that
problem any more."

Maximum penalties under the new law specifically targets pirates who copy
more than ten different programs with a collective value of at least
$2,500. According the representatives of business and software
associations, this has resulted in pirate electronic bulletin boards that
distribute being of particular interest for investigation.

DESKJET REFILLS are a great cost effective way of reducing the cost of
--------------- using your HP DeskJet printer. The problems of finding a
syringe to refill, the legal implications of locating a needle and the
mess involved places this operation out of the reach of some people. DGR
Technologies has introduced a "neat" refill unit that immensely simplifies
the task. The product comes in a twin pack pack with a prefilled
syringe/needle unit and is available in red, green, blue or black to spice
up your printing.

    DGR Technologies, 1219 West Sixth Street, Austin, TX 78703
    1.800.235.9748

ATARI FALCON030 Having used a Falcon030 for over a week now, I believe  
--------------- anyone who has an opportunity to work with one will be 
pleased.  My kids love it and are encouraging (yeah, right, how about
demanding) me to get the review finished *NOW* so they can get some more
time at the wheel. There was more than one "ahhh" experience accompanied
by big grins as we discovered new and interesting aspects of the computer.
The Atari Falcon030 is flat out a very fun computer to mess around with.

The near photographic quality graphics capability has to be seen to be
appreciated; "specifications" simply do not seem to do it justice. Just as
a reality check, I took a trip to CompUSA today and saw nothing on display
with video the quality of the Atari Falcon030.

For day-to-day work, the 256 color 640 x 480 mode works wonderfully 
providing a TT like screen compatible with most applications - I'm using
Stalker on the Falcon030 right now in color with full resolution on a NEC
3D. That fact alone is enough to sell me. There are three "ST 
compatibility" modes built into the video configuration menu - ST low,
medium and high. You can now even do ST hi-res on the Atari SC1224 color
monitor!

Speed in using real world applications is much better than I expected,
even in the higher resolution graphics modes. I've been bouncing back and
forth between the Falcon and a MSTe installed doing side by side work.  
The Falcon looks and feels significantly faster in real world use.

The digital sound is great. Audio Fun Machine demonstrates how the DSP 
works with audio to generate special effects real time and will be a big
hit at any party. There is no slow down at all as the DSP processes data.

One opinion rolling around in my mind is the Falcon030 is not an ST, it is
a very different computer - much more different than the TT is from the
ST. The Atari Falcon030 is in new ways a greatly improved computer
that just happens to be ST compatible. I'd call it the Mazda Miata of
computers, fast, fun, inexpensive and flashy.  Not a bad combination
for an entertainment product.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL! I truly wish the best for all of you and your
---------------------- families throughout the season. We are very busy 
on several special projects at Atari Explorer Magazine that I think many
of you will enjoy seeing after the first of the year. If you have any
questions or suggestions, feel free to contact me on GEnie at EXPLORER.1.
Enjoy yourselves over the holidays and please be careful to remember not 
to drink and drive.


                              --==--==--==--==--


 |||  Lexicor GEnie RTC  -  Announcing the Phoenix Object Renderer 
 |||  Courtesy of: GEnie
/ | \ ------------------------------------------------------------

===========================================================================
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are *official* information services of Atari Corporation.  To sign up for
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===========================================================================

                      Wednesday Night Real Time Conference
                               December 9, 1992
                               Host - Brian H. Harvey

               Guest Speaker - John Cole, LEXICOR
                               John Stanford
                               Ringo Montfort


 On behalf of the Atari ST Roundtable, I welcome all of you to
this LEXICOR Real Time Conference with special guest, John Cole of
Lexicor. Many of you will recall the fine products that have been
developed for our favorite computer by the Lexicor folks - Prism Paint,
Prism Render, Chronos Keyframe Animator, Rosetta, Cybersculpt, Phase 4,
Leonardo Board and other fine graphics programs.

PHOENIX 512 is the newest product in their catalog and a number of sample
files have been uploaded to the GEnie library. If you haven't seen them,
you don't know what you are missing!

I would also like to take the opportunity to thank our friends at Lexicor
for the excellent service they provide here on GEnie - with kudos to Lee
Seiler, John Cole and Ringo Montfort. Lexicor - another reason to enjoy
GEnie!


 John, do you have some opening comments to share with us?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Ok, here they come...  On December 12th, 1992 Lexicor
Software will release the Phoenix Object Renderer. This program, written
by John Stanford, is a high quality 3D object renderer, with many advanced
features.  Primarily intended for 'Stills', Phoenix does have Cyber
Control and limited key-frame support.  Among the main features are Wood
and Marble texture maps, Image mapping, object transparency, shadows, and
object luminescence.  Images can be saved in .SPC, .GIF, or .TGA format. 
Rendering options allow any size picture with colors ranging all the way
to 16 million.  Easy object and camera positioning make arranging photo
graphic quality pictures simple.  Several sample images are available for
downloading in various formats, and a demo will be available tonight.  The
price is $49.95.

If John Stanford doesn't have anything to add, we can continue.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> I'd just like to comment that Phoenix extends the
capabilities available in Antic's Cyber line, allowing creation of images
never before possible on the Atari, at an accessible price.


 Ok, the two Johns and Ringo are all available. Chris is first
with a question.

<[Chris C.] C.CASSADAY> First off, the pictures in the library are
absolutely wonderful.  I've got a TT030 and I'd like to know which (an
unfair question really) graphics card is going to best suit my needs and
be the most compatible across the line plus take advantage of the features
of Phoenix 512.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Hmmm... that's a toughie :-) The only graphics card
that we have been approached for compatibility for Chronos or Phoenix is
Crazy Dots from Gribnif.  Matrix works with Phoenix but not with Chronos
(very well :-)  I haven't seen a Cyrel card yet.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Phoenix should work quite well with the Crazy Dots
card in the paletted modes, but hasn't been tested yet. Basically, any
card which gives you the greatest color resolution for viewing your
images. 

<[Chris C.] C.CASSADAY> How do all of the Lexicor programs work together,
and what benefit can I see from using them? That's it, thanks.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> It's a 3 step process, you create 3D objects with
Cyber Sculpt, render or animate them with Phoenix or Chronos and finish
the animations with Prism paint, all fun and easy :-) I should point out
that the images in .GIF or .TGA format can be used on another platform, if
your standard ST doesn't have the best graphics.

 Thanks Chris, you are next Ray...

<[RAY] R.SYKES2> How does Phoenix talk with CHRONOS

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> At present Phoenix is a stand-alone program from
Chronos. The two do not directly interact or exchange files.  Phoenix is
presently a still frame renderer, but a simple animator is provided and it
will render Cyber Control script animation.

<[RAY] R.SYKES2> DOES IT READ AMM. FILES

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Phoenix does not use .ANM files however it does
support Cyber Control scripts.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> We are developing an add-on module to allow
Phoenix to render Chronos ANM files which will be available shortly.

 Anymore Ray??

<[RAY] R.SYKES2> Will it work with Cyber VCR?

[John S.] J.STANFORD2> You could convert a series of GIF's into a SEQ file
for VCR, but otherwise...

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Not really. Phoenix will save images as Spectrum
SPC, GIF or TGA files


<[Jonesy] M.JONES52> Please pardon my naivete, but would Phoenix be
suitable for editing photos off a Kodak CD?  Say, putting mustaches on a
picture of Uncle Henry? 

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Jonesy, No. Phoenix is not a paint program. It is
a three dimensional renderer. It creates Phoenix is not a picture editor,
it is a 3D object renderer. Lifelike scenes of three dimensional objects
with textures, shading, lighting, shadows, etc. You can then edit & modify
its images in a paint program. 

<[Jonesy] M.JONES52> Thanks, John, for clearing up my misunderstanding.


 Ok, Jonesy. It is my turn for a question. What is the difference
between Phoenix and Render 512?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Render 512 was an early version of Phoenix. New
support for other image resolutions besides spectrum is added, and it is
now completely compatible with the TT and Falcon. It has been ported to a
new development system and is much faster and VERY solid, which R512
wasn't. Lots of new options and interfaces were added also.  

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> It's more fair to say that Render is a distant
relative to Phoenix.  When you get the chance to use both side by side,
you can see the resemblance, however, Phoenix is light years ahead of
Render. Speedwise, it's the difference between impulse and warp drive :-)

 OK, your turn for a question T.Hebel

 Does Lexicor have a program to generate three D objects or do I
have to use Cybersculpt

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> You need to use Cyber Sculpt. Lexicor has numerous
copies of Cyber Scupt on hand for sale, the price is ..... Cole? BTW Cyber
Sculpt is one of the best modelers I've seen on ANY platform, many costing
10 or 20 times more.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> I think it's currently ~$30 alone but it is included
with Chronos, and there will be a Phoenix bundle with Cyber sculpt and
Prism Paint.

 What would a complete Lexicor bundle cost?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Currently Chronos is shipped with Cyber Sculpt and
Prism Paint for $199.  I'll have to check on Phoenix w/PP and CS

 Also, how much Hard Drive space would the Software take up?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> The actual program fits on a floppy, but images can
take up a lot of space depending on resolution and # of colors.


 You are next Richard.........

<[Richard] R.LEVY8> John I heard you mention modules... does this mean we
can see additional features other then .ANMS added...

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> ANM's only for right now. The ANM "module" will be
a desk accessory, ala Cyber Control. All the hooks are already in Phoenix,
we just need to finish up the accessory.

<[Richard] R.LEVY8> OK.. what is the difference between a texture map and
an image map?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Phoenix lets you assign textures to an object. You
can make an object look like it was made out of wood or marble. These
textures are "solid", meaning it looks like you carved the object out of
the material. You can also image map an object, wrapping any image around
an object. You can put a map of the earth on a globe, a painted face on a
man, camouflage and insignia on a tank, the possibilities are endless.

<[Richard] R.LEVY8> With an ST what formats can I render?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> The optimal format on an ST is the Spectrum 512
SPC format, which I'm sure everyone is familiar with. Phoenix will create
the typical ST 512 color palette images and STe 4096 palette images which
can be viewed with most viewers like DMJ3076. It will also create a GIF
file in 2,4,16, or 256 colors. These could be converter to PI? files with
other programs. Also true color TGA images for the Falcon and viewing on
other systems.

 Thanks Richard, OK you are up Chris. Thanks everyone for being
patient.

<[Chris C.] C.CASSADAY> Can you tell me a little about lighting features. 
When using a Falcon'030, is the use of a TV supported?  Lexicor markets
the Leonardo card, correct?  If so, tell us about some of its features. 
And price, also.

[Ringo] LEXICOR2> The Images that can be map to an Object are SPC, GIF and
TGA true color modes the same images can be use for backgrounds.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Phoenix has 4 different light types, solar (like
the sun), point source (like a lamp), spotlight and ambient (fill
lighting). In Phoenix you can have up to 21 lights in a scene, in any
location and brightness. All lights can cast shadows. 

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Leonardo is currently undead :-)  It will depend on
how soon Atari provides a 24bit VDI and Dover Research manufacturing the
cards again.


 OK, you are next Lyre....

<[Lyre] AEO.3> Okay, Although John mentioned what a Renderer is, I am not
sure that I understand.  Does it allow control of the placement of objects
so that they create a "scene" (as in movie sets) and from there the art
file can be edited and modified?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Leo was dead, but Atari has defrosted a little and
may squirt a VDI out after all :-) No guesses on availability thou.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Rendering in the sense of our products is creating
an image of a 3 dimensionally scene stored in your computer, with
realistic lighting and perspective effects.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Phoenix is like a photography studio, allowing you to
place 3D objects and arrange them so that you can take the picture.  Once
the picture is taken, or rendered, you use a paint program to edit that. 

<[Lyre] AEO.3> Ah!  Ok, now it makes more sense.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> If you need to. Some, like REALM's cave don't need
much else :-)

<[Lyre] AEO.3> There are a number of different Atari computers out now,
does Phoenix support all of them?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Basically what you seen in the Listerine
commercials, Norfolk Southern, 3D computer images stuff.  Once you make an
image you can paint on it like any other. Phoenix works on every computer
in the the Atari 68000 and 68030 line, both released and announced models.
1 meg memory minimum. 

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2>Like the Photography studio, you can take as many shots
as you like, moving objects and lights to your liking.

<[Lyre] AEO.3> Do the Lexicor products support the various accelarator
boards? Including the math co-processors? 

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> The accelerator boards work well with Phoenix and
help a lot. Get a computer with an 030/882 combo!!!!  Super Speed! Obvously
viewing Spectrum images w/ an accelerator is a no/no.


 Thanks Lyre!

<[Lyre] AEO.3> Ok, thank you for the info.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> The 68882 coprocessor in the TT (and optional in
the Falcon)  is fully supported and makes an incredible difference. The
68881 on the ST is also supported, but the speed improvements aren't near
as great as for the 68882.  


 Ok the moment you have been waiting for. The PHOENIX door
prize!!! I will roll a dice and the lucky job number wins.. 

**  Rolls 1D30 -> 27 = 27 Your roll is 1D30 -> 27 = 27.  Ta
da.............

 The lucky winner is R.Hackman1.............

 Any words, Richard?

 Hey Hey, thanks a lot.


 Now back to our regular scheduled program. You are next Danny.

<[Danny] D.HARTMAN2> I've tried many art programs -not yours- and all the
directions seem to have been written by the programmer after pulling an
all nighter!  How easy is your documentation to decipher for those of us
that are computer slow?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> The programmer did write the documentation, but I
spent several weeks at it. I think the tutorial is very good and walks
through most of the different options.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> The program is very easy to use.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> We are also including a full disk of sample
objects to learn from and get ideas on the texturing and lighting. 

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Chronos and Prism Paint have very good documentation,
Phoenix will also have excellent docs.

<[Danny] D.HARTMAN2> I'll check with my almost local Atari Dealer and
check it out. Thanks.

 Thanks Danny.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Danny: The documentation does assume you know how
to use the mouse and keyboard, load and copy files, etc.


 How does PHOENIX compare to similar products on the IBM/Mac?

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Brian. MAC/IBM program like Phoenix are over
priced. Lexicor gives all users excellent products at a very low price.
 
<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> I think the results speak for themselves!  Compare
REALM's cave and any other computers .GIF files and you will see! Phoenix
produces excellent output!  The best ever seen on the Atari and is right
up there with the best of em!

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> I don't have 3D studio, one of the leading
renderers for the IBM. I believe the list price for it is $3000.00.  One
of our beta testers says, who has it, the images are comparable except
that 3D studio has bump mapping which we do not, YET!


 Thanks Johns,another question from T.Hebel. Go for it...  

<[Tim] T.HEBEL> How long did it take to render the Cart picture that was
uploaded to GEnie?  (I use a TT030)  Does the software run in Fast Ram?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> If you going to get a Falcon030, your jaw will drop
when you see the quality of Phoenix 16 bit .TGA's
 
<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Ringo did the cart, can you answer?

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> I render the file on the TT less than 10 minutes.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Yes, the software can run in and use fastram. (it
will use fastram first and then go to ST ram if you need more memory).

<[Tim] T.HEBEL> What additional hardware is needed to videotape an
animation?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> To just go to video tape, you need an Atari or other
computer with composit or RF output (STe or Falcon, NOT A TT!) 

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> A note on rendering speed...Obvously anyone can
create an image that takes forever to render, the times are scene and
object dependent. As a benchmark a couple different versions of REALM's
Viking object have been uploaded. A Spectrum SPC without shadows on the TT
took two minutes. On the ST about 18 minutes.  Shadows was about three
times as long.

<[Tim] T.HEBEL> I am glad to see that _someone_ is taking advantage of the
hardware! That's it!! All done.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Tim, you need a falcon ;-)


 Thanks Tim, you are next M.Potter2........

 Mike:  Can you use procedural texture maps and does the
program support "soft" shadows?  

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> You can't create your own texture procedures,
though you can do almost anything with image mapping. The marble and wood
textures can be placed and sized anywhere on the object, and a lot of
controls are provided, like some people have done very convincing water
and sand dunes with the marble. (snow too).

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> It does very fast rendering and that allows more time
for creating scenes.

 Can you import models from other platforms like DXF or
Stratavision?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Soft shadows didn't quite make it, I'm playing
with it though. You can simulate it using more lights. You need Rosetta to
convert other formats to 3D2, Cole, what formats does it support? I know
it does DXF, Scupt from Amiga, and a few mac/IBM ones. We'll get back with
a complete list.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> DXF, Amiga sculpt and MAC sculpt AutoCADD 10. For
Rosetta, plus 3D1 and 3D2 and R.I.B. files from Rosetta.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Off the top of my head, Autocad DXF release 10, amiga
sculpt and some mac stuff too... I cant find my feature sheet :-)


 Thank you for your questions. OK, it is Mike from AEO to
ask a question or two..Take your turn at the mike, Mike.

<[mike] AEO.8> What input devices are supported, and what plans for
additions do you have?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> The mouse and keyboard are all that are needed, I
can't see where a tablet would be of use in this program. One should work
ok though.

<[mike] AEO.8> ok..  I'm an artist, and still have to have the "pen" in
hand..

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> The Lexicor WIZ graphic tablet works. Specially for
object creations. The WIZ tablet is a GOD send for Paint programs.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Additions: The renderer of ALL renderers!!!! We
plan on going A LOT further with this package, and integrating it further
with our other products. Actual features I plan to do is too long a list
to get into. ANM support is definitely next.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Careful John :-) Don't give away the crown jewels
:-)

 Thank you Mike. We now have Jeff Andrews will to ask some
interesting questions. Ok Jeff GO!!!!!!

<[Jeff A.] J.ANDREWS23> Ok, here goes a 3 parter...
      1) John S., this is a feature I would desperately like to see in a
.SPC based program such as PHOENIX in the future - How about a button that
turns on and off the CPU cache for us poor folks who have  Mega STe's and
want to render quickly and then see the results without going  to the
Control Panel, then the CPX, then the MHz box, for the nth time, as n
approaches infinity?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Thats a good Idea Jeff, however Atari will NOT give
out that information, a lot of people have wanted that for a while. 

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> There is a auto folder program from I believe DMJ
that lets you switch with a keypress. M.POCHE is one of our BETA testers
and thinks the world of this program.

<[Jeff A.] J.ANDREWS23> Part 2...
     Is the demo that's going to be available tonight going to be in 475;3
right after this? 

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> It should be up tonight, after the sysops ok it that
is ;-)

<[Jeff A.] J.ANDREWS23> Thanks for the DMJ info... 

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> The keypress prg is I BELIEVE in the libraries. I
try to check later. 

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Check the Lexicor library #39. For the demo.

<[Jeff A.] J.ANDREWS23> Part 3...
      Please upgrade the .ANM .ACC from vaporware status ASAP!

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> We realize that is a high priority. We're working
as much on an animation player to get full results of the Phoenix images
as on the rendering module itself. We have a builder and player to create
Spectrum delta animations and this is included w/ Phoenix. We don't have
the player finished yet to handle TT LOW res with a different palette for
each frame like Phoenix requires for best results.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> but will soon :-)


 Thanks Jeff Andrews. OK Chris- another question.

<[Chris C.] C.CASSADAY> I had heard in the BB that you guys were working
on a videotape demo.  What's the scoop?  Also, do you still fill up 44meg
SyQuest's on request?  Could you post an address that we could send in a
SyQuest and get some of Lee's pictures and anims.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Yes
                         LEXICOR SOFTWARE CORP.
                         58 Redwood Road
                         Fairfax, CA 94930. 
                   Phone 415-453,0271 and FAX  415-453-0533

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Call 415-453-0271 next week to order the Demo tape or
ask about the demo syquest.


 Thanks Chris. My turn again...
I would like to know what changes are planned for the future for PHOENIX? 
I know it won't be released until 12th of December, however I am really
interested in its future.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> As mentioned getting things moving with ANM is top
priority. Also extended texturing. Several new procedural textures,
ability to combine multiple textures on an object.  Bump mapping (the
surface will look bumpy like any orange). Anti alising is a definite
must. Phoenix doesn't now support that. Phoenix already creates an
auxiliary file for use with our Falcon paint and image processing program
(NOT ANNOUNCED YET :-) ) for depth of field, motion blur and
depth-overlaying effects.  


 Thanks. Tim would like to ask another question.  What is your
question Tim? 

<[Tim] T.HEBEL> Are there any books that you would recommend to beginners
to help them get up to speed in computer animation?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> I'm just the programmer, I don't get much time to
actually use it! 

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Besides the Chronos or Phoenix manuals, you mean? ;-)
Amiga video magazines and general books on animation are good sources,
check your bookstore ;-)

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Lee Seiler is our resident expert and is a
professional in the field. He's still off hiding on vacation. you might
want to re-ask in Lexicor's cat 25 next week.

<[Tim] T.HEBEL> Also, I was still wondering what I would need to hook up
my TT to record video?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> The TT is a nice machine, but lousy for getting
animations out.  Sorry, we have tried to get a converter, but none is
available at this time.  A falcon would help :-)

 <[Ringo] LEXICOR2> But you can send ANM/TGA file for rendering to a
service center.

 Thanks Chris. SAM-RAPP is next. Go Sam..... 

 This may have been asked up-conference so stop me if it has... 
What tools should I buy as a complete beginner in animation and computer
graphics? I plan on buying a Falcon when available.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> For Phoenix all you need is Cyber Sculpt to create
your models.  Depending on what system you have you'll probably want a
paint prg to edit the images also (add you name, flames, etc.). On an ST
that would be Spectrum, a TT Prism Paint. I haven't surveyed the Falcon
Paint market yet. Our future offering is obviously highly recommended.

 Is CAD 3-D/Cyber studio necessary?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> You need something to create objects with. You
can use CAD-3D for that, but Cyber Sculpt is the tool of choice and is
available from Lexicor. For the masochists in our audience Cyber Control
can create very impressive animations with Phoenix.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Here are my basic steps for Phoenix animations: Create
objects/Phoenix light,map, effects, objects, create a scupt script and
render in full true color mode Single frame mode or GIF or SPC format
animation. All of that works. BUT with single frames I can create an
excellent file for a company LOGO!

 Thank you Sam. I know Mike has another question.  OK, your turn
for a question Mike.

<[mike] AEO.8> I remember reading several months back that Lexicor was
working on a link between the new Falcon and SG. Is Phoenix a part of
that?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Lexicor is in the process of porting it's animation
programs to the SGI, however, currently Phoenix is an Atari only program.

<[mike] AEO.8> Thanks!

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> One thing to note is the Phoenix will create TARGA
files, which is a standard format on the SGI.

 Go Jeff.

<[Jeff A.] J.ANDREWS23> Is anyone aware if software programs like WARP 9
significantly improve the rendering time on Chronos or Phoenix?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> It will have almost no effect on the rendering
time in Phoenix, it will however greatly speed you scene composition when
you're redrawing wireframes a lot.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Warp 9 does help Chronos some, and would help Phoenix
on screen redraws.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Jeff.GIF files with WARP9 load-up very fast with the
program even on a TT. Prism-Paint GIF files.


 Go Richard.......  

<[Richard] R.LEVY8> John... any clues for future Lexicor programs?

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> clues... Hmmm...  Let's see.  A fantastic Color image
processing package, A 3D object painter, something to do with sound, and
finally some nifty genlock stuff :-) Clues enough ;-)

<[Richard] R.LEVY8> HUMMMM... sounds like I'll be saving my money.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> The demo of Phoenix was mentioned earlier. The
demo contains all the features and functions of Phoenix, and will load and
save all files. The only difference is that several black bands will be
rendered into the image. Also the demo doesn't work right on a tos 1.0
machine when loading large objects. This is fixed in the actual program.


 Thanks Richard. Joe Torres has a question or two. OK, your turn
for a question Joe.

 (I came in late) One thing I'd like to see in an animation
pack is the addition of sampled sounds/MOD files... Any plans/hints? (for
at least playback) 

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> I can't discuss that too much ;-) we will say that we
are working on it ;-)


 How memory intensive is PHOENIX? What is the minimum memory
setup?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Phoenix will run in 1 meg of memory. To be
painfully honest though it is quite memory hungry though. I've never had
any problem getting my own images to work in 4 meg, but Lee has created
scenes that require more. Phoenix has a lot of options that will let you
create good looking images with a small number of faces (sides) in an
object. The fewer faces you use the more you can get away with.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Lee has a 20 plus meg system and sometimes renders from
that one.

 <[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Shadowing uses more memory than a non-shadowed
scene also. Its all very scene dependent. The program itself uses 570K or
so.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Not that Phoenix needs 20 meg ram BUT it support the
extra hardware for your system.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> That another one of the things on the future list,
we think we can reduce the memory requirements significantly in a future
version.


 Thanks John S and Ringo. OK, your turn for a question Richard. 

 I wanted to thank you again now that I'm back at my home
machine.

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Your very welcome R.H ;-)

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Hi, R.HACKMAN1!

 I also wanted to know if the ANM version of Phoenix will be
able to "MORPH" like Chronos.

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Our pleasure Richard. We're very glad to have you
on our team now. Yes, morph will definitely be supported, and to a further
degree than in Chronos. You will be able to morph the color of an object,
so it changes from one color to another during the morph. Morphing
doesn't like textures though. 

 Thanks John - I'm the one that sent a TGA upside down E-mail
to you a while back... Sounds great- 

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Thanks for the reminder on your earlier message. I
have a TGA flipper if you're interested send E-Mail.

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> WELL,  NO comment for Key-frame animation.  Chronos is
the BEST!!!!


 Thanks Rick. Your turn Jeff.  Then we will be calling it quits
real soon.

<[Jeff A.] J.ANDREWS23> Ok...  Does Lexicor have anything that does 2D
morphing?  That seems fashionable lately, I know I saw a mac morph of Bush
into Clinton, and the tween frames were eerie 8^>

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> Not yet, that will happen in a future product ;-)

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Basically no in the immediate future. We have a
handle on the technology now, but there are a lot of other steps necessary
to tie it all together.

<[Jeff A.] J.ANDREWS23> Thanks. 


 Last questions for the night, folks.  You have been with the
Atari for awhile.  What is your vision of the future of Atari ST(E)/
Falcon? Also, what is the future of LEXICOR and the ATARI? In particular,
what is coming up in '93? <[Ringo] LEXICOR2>

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> 93 is all about the Falcon.  Everything is on Atari
and how many and how fast they ship Falcon030's and the timely arrival of
future computers.  We are poised to enter the high end desktop video
market with hardware that will allow us to beat the Video toaster in
price AND performance. All we need is computers to develop on and a
market to sell to.


 Great guys!!!!!!! We're drawing to a close for the formal
portion of the LEXICOR RTC.  Before I put the room into Frenzy Mode, do
you have any closing words, JOHN? Ringo and/or John S.?

<[John S.] J.STANFORD2> Brian, We'd like to thank you, Lou and Darlah for
hosting this conference, and all the great support Genie has provided
Lexicor and its users. Thanks!

<[Lexicor] J.COLE18> I'd just like to thank everyone for attending.  I
hope to have a few more product announcements in a short time, so hopefully
we can all do this again :-)

<[Ringo] LEXICOR2> Well, The Falcon game is now ready and Lexicor has the
proper programs, Let ATARI know that this is a new topic.

 Ok good.
I wish to thank you John , John S. and Ringo for making it here tonight. 
I also wish to thank all the attendees for their questions and patience.

******************************************************************

Be sure to stop by on Wednesday, December 16th for our next RTC with Eric
Bitton.  This will be a games discussion RTC and Eric will tell you about
the latest releases for the ATARI ST. Your host will be Brian Harvey. See
you then.


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I made a mistake, certainly not the first time I have done so, and 
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                          December 15, 1992
 
The IAAD is an organization of third-party hardware and software 
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NeoDesk 3/NeoDesk CLI/STalker 3/STeno/XBoot/CardFile 4/
Convector Professional/Arabesque Professional/XBoot III/
Crazy Dots 8/Crazy Dots 15
 
David Fletcher
DITEK
Ditek International
2800 John Street Unit 15
Markham ON L3R 0E2 Canada
416 479 1882 (fax)
416 479 1990
DynaCADD
 
George Geczy, David Thompson
JMGSOFT, D.THOMPSON66
JMG Software International, Inc.
892 Upper James Street
Hamilton ON L9C 3A5 Canada
416 575 0283 (fax)
416 575 3201
HyperLINK
 
Tyson T Gill
T.GILL7
GT Software
12114 Kirton Avenue
Cleveland OH 44135-3612 USA
216 252 4272
CardFile (distr. by Gribnif)
 
Tom Harker, Doug Wheeler, Hans-Peter Labude
ICDINC, DOUG.W, ICD.GMBH
ICD, Inc.
1220 Rock Street
Rockford IL 61101 USA
815 968 6888 (fax)
815 968 2228
The Link/AdSCSI Micro ST/AdSCSI ST/AdSCSI Plus ST/AdSpeed ST/
AdSpeed STe/FA-ST Hard Drive Kit/FA-ST Tape Backup/Cleanup ST/
ICD Professional Hard Drive Utilities/ICD Tape Backup Software/
Advantage Micro ST/Advantage ST/Advantage Plus ST/STHA/
Personal Pascal
 
Doug Harrison
D.S.HARRISON
P.O. Box 66236
Baton Rouge LA 70806-6236 USA
Opus (shareware)/Lookit & Popit (distr. by CodeHead)
 
Craig Harvey
C.HARVEY
Clear Thinking
P.O. Box 715 
Ann Arbor MI 48105 USA
313 971 6035 (bbs)
313 971 8671
EdHak/Metapsychology Primer
 
Harlan Hugh
H.HUGH
Power Thought Software
116 Sumach Street
Toronto ON M5A 3J9 Canada
416 594 9355 (fax)
416 594 9355
INVISION Elite (distr. by DMC)
 
John 'Hutch' Hutchinson
FAIR-DINKUM
Fair Dinkum Technologies
P.O. Box 2
Los Alamos NM 87544 USA
505 662 7236
CrossWord Creator II/Word Search Creator/Cryptographer/InfoDisk/
Cyberdrome: The Hoverjet Simulator/Puzzle Pack
 
Gene Kane
GENEXRX
Xerox Corp 
101 Continental Blvd. M/S ESC1-257
El Segundo CA 90245 USA
310 333 2707
Printer Drivers For Xerox Printers
 
Deron Kazmaier
DERON.K
Soft-Logik Publishing
P.O. Box 510589
St. Louis MO 63151-0589 USA
314 894 8608 or 800 892 8608
PageStream/ImageClub Clip Art/ImageClub Fonts/Business Forms
 
Alex Kiernan, David Link, Dave Nutkins
HISOFT
HiSoft
The Old School 
Greenfield Bedford MK45 5DE England
+44 525 713716 (fax)
+44 525 718181
Devpac 3/HiSoft BASIC 2/Lattice C/HighSpeed Pascal/FTL Modula-2/
WERCS/Harlekin 2/HiSoft C/ProFlight/K-Spread/K-Comm/K-Word/K-Data 
(HiSoft products distr. by Oregon Research Associates)
 
Gregory J Kopchak
GREG
It's All Relative
2233 Keevan Lane
Florisant MO 63031 USA
314 831 9482
It's All Relative/BookMaker/Forecaster3/AbbreviatorST/
PhotoCD Conversion
 
Bob Luneski
ORA.TECH
Oregon Research Associates
16200 S.W. Pacific Highway Suite 162
Tigard OR 97224 USA
503 624 2940 (fax)
503 620 4919
Diamond Back II/Diamond Edge/Knife ST/Ultimate Virus Killer/
DevPacST 3/DevPacTT/HiSoft BASIC 2/Lattice C 5.5/HiSoft C/
HighSpeed Pascal/FTL Modula-2/Tempus 2/WERCS/Harlekin 2/
True Paint/ProFlight
 
Henry Murphy, Carl Stanford
H.MURPHY, C.STANFORD
MS Design
611 West Illinois Street
Urbana IL 61801 USA
217 351 6412 (fax)
217 384 8469
FontPak 1 & 2/Wheeler Quick Art CD-ROM/
Wheeler Quick Art Image Disks
 
Tom Nielsen
ESTEEM
eSTeem, inc.
72 Shades Crest Road
Hoover AL 35226-1014 USA
205 987 9208
eSTeem PILOT
 
Mark T O'Bryan
M.OBRYAN1
Paradigm Software Products
1369 Concord Place Suite 3-B
Kalamazoo MI 49009-2201 USA
616 372 5972
Omni-Banker ST
 
W. David Parks
W.PARKS3
Dr. Bobware / Wizworks!
P.O. Box 45
Girard OH 44420 USA
216 539 5623
ScanLite/MVG: MultiViewer Graphica/MVG Modules Disks 1, 2, & 3
 
William Penner
BPENNER
Medical Designs Software
3235 Wright Avenue
Bremerton WA 98310 USA
206 479 2157 (bbs)
206 373 4840
ECTStat/IOLCALC/MultiWriter/SERIALFX
 
Mario Perdue
M.PERDUE
M.P. Graphics Systems
P.O. Box 501289
Indianapolis IN 46250-6289 USA
317 335 3775
Noids-II
 
Nathan Potechin
POTECHIN
DMC Publishing
2800 John Street Unit 10
Markham ON L3R 0E2 Canada
416 479 1882 (fax)
416 479 1880
Calamus 1.09N/Calamus SL & modules/Calamus Font Editor/
The Guide to Calamus Desktop Publishing/Outline Art/
INVISION Elite
 
Roger Richards
R.RICHARDS2
Synergy Resources
754 N. Bolten Avenue
Indianapolis IN 46219 USA
317 231 4158 (fax)
317 356 6946
GEMvelope!/SynthView DW-8000/SynthView K1
 
George Richardson
G.RICHARDSO1
Merlin Group, Inc.
96 Hoyt Street
Kearny NJ 07032-3311 USA
201 998 0932 (fax)
201 998 4441
 
Chris Roberts
DRAGONWARE
DragonWare Software Inc.
P.O. Box 1719
Havre MT 59501-1719 USA
406 265 7300
G Man/Satellite Locator ST/Smoke Art/Dragon Battery/Battery.ACC/
Omikron Basic/FreeWay/DBRS ST/D_Graph ST
 
Eric Rosenquist 
E.ROSENQUIST
Strata Software
94 Rowe Drive
Kanata ON K2L 3Y9 Canada
613 591 1922 (fax)
613 591 1922
STalker & STeno (distr. by Gribnif)
 
Nevin Shalit
NEVIN-S
Step Ahead Software, Inc.
496-A Hudson Street Suite F39
New York City NY 10014 USA
212 627 5830
TrackerST/Tracker For Windows
 
David M Small
DAVESMALL
Gadgets by Small, Inc.
40 West Littleton Blvd. #210-211
Littleton CO 80120 USA
303 791 0253 (fax)
303 791 6098
Spectre GCR
 
Josh Snyder
J.SNYDER7
Cali-Co. Superior Software
P.O. Box 9873
Madison WI 53715 USA
608 255 6523
Mah-Jong Solitaire
 
Gene F Sothan
EFS
Sothan Software / IB Computers
9395 North Wall
Portland OR 97203 USA
503 286 8816
IB Harddisk Backup
 
John Trautschold
J.TRAUTSCHOL
Missionware Software
354 N. Winston Drive
Palatine IL 60067-4132 USA
708 359 9565
lottODDS/Printer Initializer/Flash II
 
Melinda Turcsanyi
M.TURCSANYI
MUSICODE Software
5575 Baltimore Drive Suite 105-127
La Mesa CA 91942 USA
619 469 7194
 
Clayton Walnum
C.WALNUM1
Taylor Ridge Books
P.O. Box 78
Manchester CT 06045 USA
203 643 9673
C-manship Complete/ST Assembly Language Workshop/
GFA Basic Toolkit/VDI Quick Reference/AES Quick Reference/
TRB Shareware Companion
 
Chet Walters
C.WALTERS1
WizWorks!
P.O. Box 45
Girard OH 44420 USA
216 539 5623
Image Cat/Mug Shot!/Coalesce Image Merger/Ma Hubbard's Cupboard/
Mug Shot Data
 
Sterling K Webb 
S.WEBB7
SKWare One
P.O. Box 277
Bunker Hill IL 62014 USA
618 462 2171 (evenings)
Seurat/ColorScan/Auto*Art/PS-2GDOS
 
Norm Weinress
N.WEINRESS
Weinress Consulting
3236 Velma Drive
Los Angeles CA 90068 USA
213 876 7704
D.E.K.A.
 
Steve Whitney
S.WHITNEY
655 South Fair Oaks Avenue I-103
Sunnyvale CA 94086 USA
815 968 6888
 
James D Yegerlehner
J.YEGERLEHNE
Apprentice Software
22205 Swan Road
South Lyon MI 48178 USA
313 437 0526
Neural-network Construction Set

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This post reprinted courtesy GEnie.

Category 29,  Topic 4
Message 105       Fri Dec 18, 1992
FAIR-DINKUM [Hutch]          at 21:31 EST
 
====================================================================== ===
MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OUR MATES ON GENIE! ======
======================================================================

A Christmas present for registered users of CWCII or WSC... -------------------
----------------------------------------
  If you are a registered user of Crossword Creator II (CWCII) or Word Search
Creator (WSC), you may now upgrade to the latest version of Puzzle Pack which
includes the latest releases of both CWCII & WSC for only $20.00, postpaid! 
Puzzle Pack normally retails for $49.95 and CWCII and WSC retail for $34.95
each so this is a good deal, folks! This offer definitely expires 31 Jan 93
and is available to registered users of either CWCII or WSC only!  This
special price includes the program disk and manual only.  If you want one of
our new viny data folders as well, please add an additional $5.00.  Candadian
customers no extra charge.  Other international orders add $5 extra postage.

A Christmas present for NEW customers only... ---------------------------------
------------
  Place an order for any Fair Dinkum Technologies product prior to 31 January
1993 and get FREE shipping (priority in the US, first class to Canada).  This
offer available only to new customers in the US or Canada.

A Christmas special... ----------------------
  Order any TWO Fair Dinkum Technologies products between now and 31 January
1993 and get a third product FREE!  Choose from either Word Search Creator or
The Cryptographer as your free gift.  The free shipping deal does not apply
with this offer.  Add $3 s&h. Your free software will be an "Enviro-Pack"
(manuals & disks only).

And yet Another Special... --------------------------
  Since CYBERDROME-THE HOVERJET SIMULATOR is best when played in the 2-
player/2-computer mode, you should have 2 copies of the software (if not being
played in the same household).  So place an order for two copies of Cyberdrome
(regular $39.95) for just $70.00, POSTPAID, for the full versions, complete
with data folders.

The Fair Dinkum Lineup ----------------------
  Crossword Creator II........................ $34.95
  Word Search Creator.........................  34.95
  Puzzle Pack (includes both, above)..........  49.95
  The Cryptographer...........................  34.95
  CYBERDROME-The Hoverjet Simulator...........  39.95

This message will self-destruct (sorta... I'll delete it) on 1/31/93.

       Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to everyone!

-Hutch- @ Fair Dinkum Tech
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 |||  Computing Heresy! .............. Where "more" isn't always "better"
 |||  By: Andreas Barbiero
/ | \ -------------------------------------------------------------------

Before I get any microchips burned on my front lawn, this heresy is of the
creative kind; the kind of heresy that Galileo spoke about when he
suggested the Earth revolved around the Sun, and when that anonymous
inventor made the first bannana and peanut butter sandwich. You know....
the important stuff!

Computers are tools. And while they are the most versatile of tools,
capable of an infinite variety of electronic tasks, this wonderful power
has attracted the oddest sort of person: Enthusiasts.

What type of person is an enthusiast? Well, automobile enthusiasts 
endlessly discuss how to squeeze more horsepower out of bored-out 
big-block engines, creating high speed monsters that are almost useless
for fetching a gallon of milk from the store - all as they idle roughly 
and spew carcinogens. (Don't get angry, my dream car is a Shelby Cobra
454!)

On the other hand, there are very few people who attack the problem of how
to keep all those crumbs out from under the baby seat in my Taurus with
the same enthusiasm.

Computer enthusiasts are much like other enthusiasts. They (we?) are
always looking for MORE. MORE speed, MORE storage, MORE colors, and MORE
software.

More is not a bad thing, but it needs to be balanced with "what is 
actually needed." Unless you have an unlimited sum of money, the cost is
always a factor in the decision making of what to purchase, whether it be
hardware or software. So the delimiting question is one of needs versus
hyped-up wants. Very few tasks need maximum power, speed, memory, etc.
This question might be better answered by considering what the dealer is
trying to sell as a NEED rather than a little used option. If we want to
find people trying to sell you every possible accessory, we will just have
to go to the PC world to get an easy example.

The PC clone world has been ravaged by a vicious price war in 1992.  
Prices have dropped, and consequently profits have shrunk to almost
nothing. A $2000 computer sale might not even see 5% profit! Major
companies, such as Everex, are falling to this trend and going out of
business. Falling prices might be good for the consumer - except in the
long run, because with fewer competitors, prices will rise as demand 
begins to outpace production.

AMD has been forbidden to make '486 chips for now, causing chip prices to
rise. The Korean memory manufacturers, accused of dumping chips into the
market, have been acted against, which has scared the market into almost
doubling the price of SIMMS in a few days.

Bare bones pricing has driven dealers to look for other additions to the
system to help boost a bit of profit. CD-ROMs, huge hard drives, SVGA
cards, and the rest all have their definite utility. But does the average 
PC word processor need SVGA and a 44MHz '486???

Windows is a monster, and 10 or more megabytes of memory set aside in an
effort to get those pretty animated icons and useful graphic interface to
work is common. Most of the time Windows is a glorified program launcher,
and the really cool software is unable to run under it. I know of people
who have moved up to a '486 JUST to be able to run Wing Commander under
Windows! All that money... but that is never spoken aloud to a person who
is shakey on buying a DOS box. To those sold on the idea, the god of
memory and SVGA cards is mightily appeased at the money spent on 
incremental results.

Many Atari users have reached a level of productivity on an 8MHz 68000
that is undreamt of by users with '286s and '386s. Why? Books could be
written discussing this phenomena, but the main reason is a ROM based
operating system which has a mild appetite for RAM, and a CPU which is
helped out by custom chips carrying part of the workload. Better a skimpy
CPU (the 8MHz 68000 is getting close lately) with a robust support network
of helpers than a robust chip (the '486 is a decent number cruncher) with
non-existent support on the bus.

The best information is useless if it is inaccessable, and the most
powerful CPU is helpless when faced with dozens more tasks than it should
have to perform.

So, what does a good system consist of? I consider my Mega STe to be an
excellent example of a decent system. A 50 meg harddrive, a 16 MHz 68000, 
a superior keyboard, and TOS 2.06 beats out a more expensive DOS box in 
the '386 and low '486 class. All the add-ons make those machines a
liability. I will never have to re-install TOS after goofing up a .INF
file - Windows is GONE if the driving files are messed up at ALL. I do
concede that the 68000 is a aging chip, and now that the new technology is
a couple of generations away, the 68030s are affordable and a welcome
improvement.

When the Falcon is available in numbers, it will really take over the
average users needs with real overkill in the audio and video 
departments. A 16MHz 030 is capable of speeds up to 5 times that of a 8MHz
68000, and if a 8MHz STe can hold its own against a 16MHz '386, imagine
what the Falcon will be able to realistically take on!

But what about NOW? The Falcon has still yet to appear at any dealership
in the US, and the STe and TT are presently available. A decent system
based on a STe really needs to be based on the Mega STe. The venerable ST
design really underwent some fantastic transformations with the
introduction of the Mega STe. Not only are the standard STe enhancements
put into this machine, your favorite ST application software will benefit
from the boost of a 16MHz 68000.

The built in hard drive, TOS 2.06, 1.44 meg floppy, and VME give the lucky
user a platform that can keep up for a few more years. If more storage is
needed, a Syquest removable is a good expansion, allowing potentially
unlimited storage, and makes a good mate for the internal hard drive.
Backups are a snap with one of these units, and you won't have to feel
guilty when you download several megabytes of Photochrome pictures or MOD
files!

Printers are another matter. With the recent introduction of the
Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 4, 600dpi printing is available at the cost that
300dpi is sold at! 600dpi is effectively 4X the resolution as 300dpi....
every dot of ink on a 300dpi page is replaced by 4 dots at 600dpi! $1400
is a bit much for the average home user, but the introduction of new
technology presents some problems. I purchased a DeskJet 500 last year,
and am glad that I went this way. The LaserJet 4 is going to change the
face of printing technology, bringing the 300dpi models cheaper, and
paving the way for more improvements.

For the next year or so, my DJ500 will serve me nicely as I wait for the
next generation of laser printers to settle out. The DJ is not the newest
or the best, but it, like the Mega STe, is a great deal of versatility for
the money. Modems are another story. The high-speed modem (9600/14,400
baud) price wars of 1992 have slowed a bit, and for at least the next year
or two, any improvements with new models will not present a big enough
jump to warrant the costs. A decent 14.4Kbaud modem with all the
applicable protocols is available for under $250, if you shop carefully.

This MSTe system will serve even after you decide to move up to one of
Atari's newer machines in the future. The modem, Syquest and DeskJet
printer are transferrable to a new CPU, and will be able to add some
serious value to any computer you buy.

If you want to move up a bit in price, substituting a TT for the MSTe will
give you a system capable of outperforming the Falcon030, and a '486 DOS
box at a reasonable price.

The MSTe should be available around $600 to $900, depending upon 
configuration, and the TT should go for under $1500, for a base model.
Monitors are extra, and a standard VGA should work on the TT and on a
Falcon machine, if it is in your future.

In conclusion, don't overbuy. Decide honestly what your needs are, how far
you can expect to expand it realistically, and how soon you expect
technology to REALLY overtake you. You will be suprized how long you can
stay current and productive with a machine that isn't replaced every six
months!!


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 |||  GEnie Atari ST RoundTable News
/ | \ Courtesy: GEnie
      ------------------------------

 = DARLAH'S TREAT =

    ***************************************************************

       Happy Holidays from the Atari Roundtable and GEnie!

 Darlah's Holiday Treat of the Month [page 475;9] is PHNXDEMO.LZH from
  LEXICOR2. This the DEMO version of Phoenix object render from
   Lexicor Software. The LZH file also includes SPC & GIF sample files.
    This is a must have program for all ATARI computers. Phoenix support
     different light sources, 3 different cameras, texture and image
      mapping: SPC, GIF & TGA are support. This is a very fast render.

 Look for the second Holiday Treat coming soon on page 475;10

       -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

 FAIR-DINKUM Technologies have just uploaded a brand new, fully functional
  DEMO version of CYBERDROME - THE HOVERJET SIMULATOR by Rhea-FX.
   CyberDrome combines the realism of a real-time flight or tank simulator
    with arcade action and the exploration of an adventure/maze game. This
     is a great demo, check it out; File # 26949.

    ***************************************************************

 = REALTIME CONFERENCE =

 = Scheduled Wednesday RTC Guests =

 Have an idea for an Realtime Conference? Wish to promote a product,
 show or service? Atari Roundtable Realtime Conference provides an
 excellent platform for announcements and discussions. Contact RTC$,
 for requirements  and information on holding formal RTCs. We also
 capture and edit the formal conferences and uploads them into the
 Atari RT's Library for you.

 = Monday Realtime Conference =

 Stop in for Monday's Desktop Publishing Realtime Conferences. Hosted
 by Lou Rocha with regular guests dealing with all aspects of DTP and
 associated topics.

 = Atari ST Help Desk =

 Atari ST Roundtable holds a Sunday Help Desk to answer your questions
 on GEnie, Atari ST Roundtable and the line of Atari computers. Stop in
 and ask questions or just visit the Atari RT staff and users. The Help
 Desk starts at 9:00 pm EST Sunday on page 475;2.

 = RTC Transcripts =

26912 LEXICOR.ARC              X BRIAN.H      921213   16384     65  13
      Desc: LEXICOR RTC 9Dec92
26809 BRODIE3.ARC              X ST.LOU       921205   12672    422  13
      Desc: Lots of Christmas Specials from Bob
26713 BRODIE2.LZH              X ST.LOU       921128   12416    281  13
      Desc: RTC Transcript/Bob Brodie

    For Realtime Conference inquires and comments contact: RTC$

 = LIBRARY =

 Last Week's Top Downloaded Programs/Utilities:

      ---------------------------------------------------
26831 PCHROME3.LZH             X D.HELMS      921206   44800    403  28
      Desc: PhotoChrome Version 3.00 !MUST HAVE!
26900 W9_374UP.LZH             X CODEHEAD     921212   80896    252   2
      Desc: Updates Warp 9 v3.73 to v3.74
26927 W9_375UP.LZH             X CODEHEAD     921213   67072    169   2
      Desc: Fixes 2 bugs in Warp 9 3.74
26903 DE100102.LZH             X ORA.TECH     921212  118656    164   2
      Desc: Diamond Edge V1.00 -> V1.02 Patch
26829 DB2V251.LZH              X ORA.TECH     921206  107136    161   2
      Desc: Diamond Back II V2.50->V2.51 Patch
26866 FORUM36A.LZH             X E.BAIZ       921210   32256    147   8
      Desc: Tic-Tac-Toe game. Excellent!!!!!!!
26850 STTK1207.ARC             X J.SELLERS2   921209  299392    122   8
      Desc: Trek space battle simulation.
26891 PROC_123.LZH             X D.PANKE      921212   27264     91   3
      Desc: GFA PROCEDURES Volume 1.23
      ---------------------------------------------------

 Last Week's New Demos:

      ---------------------------------------------------
26962 SOLUTION.LZH             X P.DUBE       921215  288768      8  10
      Desc: Mathematical software for the ST/TT
26949 CBDDEMO2.LZH             X FAIR-DINKUM  921215  133632     18  10
      Desc: NEW Demo version of CyberDrome!!!
      ---------------------------------------------------

 Last Week's Press Releases in the Library

      ---------------------------------------------------
26964 IAAD_DIR.ASC             X D.A.BRUMLEVE 921215   10496     12  14
      Desc: Updated IAAD Member Directory
26848 EDGESALE.TXT             X MAG.SOFTWARE 921209    2688     44  14
      Desc: Diamond Edge still on SALE - $44.95
26847 3DFLPFLY.LZH             X MAG.SOFTWARE 921209  104704     25  14
      Desc: 3-D Floptical Flyer - .IMG format
26840 LOTSBYTE.CAT             X LOTSABYTES   921208     768     87  14
      Desc: PLI products, mini & dual systems.
26828 CMCINFO.TXT              X S.GARRIGUS   921206    7424     50  14
      Desc: Computer Musician Coalition info!
26804 LYNXXMAS.TXT             X EXPLORER.1   921205    3584    105  14
      Desc: Christmas special on the LYNX!
      ---------------------------------------------------

    Contact: LIBRARY$


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 |||
 |||  The First Annual Atari Explorer Online Reader Survey ... The results
/ | \ --------------------------------------------------------------------

Wow. I must say that I was overwhelmed by the response to our First 
Annual Reader's Survey. We've a lot of numbers to grind through. Here are 
the results:

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